linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] rcu/kasan: record and print call

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Date:   Tue, 12 May 2020 20:19:51 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
To:     Walter Wu <walter-zh.wu@...iatek.com>
Cc:     Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] rcu/kasan: record and print call_rcu() call stack

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 10:05:31AM +0800, Walter Wu wrote:
> On Tue, 2020-05-12 at 18:22 +0200, Dmitry Vyukov wrote:
> > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 6:14 PM Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > This feature will record first and last call_rcu() call stack and
> > > > > > > > > print two call_rcu() call stack in KASAN report.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Suppose that a given rcu_head structure is passed to call_rcu(), then
> > > > > > > > the grace period elapses, the callback is invoked, and the enclosing
> > > > > > > > data structure is freed.  But then that same region of memory is
> > > > > > > > immediately reallocated as the same type of structure and again
> > > > > > > > passed to call_rcu(), and that this cycle repeats several times.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Would the first call stack forever be associated with the first
> > > > > > > > call_rcu() in this series?  If so, wouldn't the last two usually
> > > > > > > > be the most useful?  Or am I unclear on the use case?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2 points here:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. With KASAN the object won't be immediately reallocated. KASAN has
> > > > > > 'quarantine' to delay reuse of heap objects. It is assumed that the
> > > > > > object is still in quarantine when we detect a use-after-free. In such
> > > > > > a case we will have proper call_rcu stacks as well.
> > > > > > It is possible that the object is not in quarantine already and was
> > > > > > reused several times (quarantine is not infinite), but then KASAN will
> > > > > > report non-sense stacks for allocation/free as well. So wrong call_rcu
> > > > > > stacks are less of a problem in such cases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. We would like to memorize 2 last call_rcu stacks regardless, but we
> > > > > > just don't have a good place for the index (bit which of the 2 is the
> > > > > > one to overwrite). Probably could shove it into some existing field,
> > > > > > but then will require atomic operations, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nobody knows how well/bad it will work. I think we need to get the
> > > > > > first version in, deploy on syzbot, accumulate some base of example
> > > > > > reports and iterate from there.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I understood the stack-index point below, why not just move the
> > > > > previous stackm index to clobber the previous-to-previous stack index,
> > > > > then put the current stack index into the spot thus opened up?
> > > >
> > > > We don't have any index in this change (don't have memory for such index).
> > > > The pseudo code is"
> > > >
> > > > u32 aux_stacks[2]; // = {0,0}
> > > >
> > > > if (aux_stacks[0] != 0)
> > > >     aux_stacks[0] = stack;
> > > > else
> > > >    aux_stacks[1] = stack;
> > >
> > > I was thinking in terms of something like this:
> > >
> > > u32 aux_stacks[2]; // = {0,0}
> > >
> > > if (aux_stacks[0] != 0) {
> > >     aux_stacks[0] = stack;
> > > } else {
> > >    if (aux_stacks[1])
> > >         aux_stacks[0] = aux_stacks[1];
> > >    aux_stacks[1] = stack;
> > > }
> > >
> > > Whether this actually makes sense in real life, I have no idea.
> > > The theory is that you want the last two stacks.  However, if these
> > > elements get cleared at kfree() time, then I could easily believe that
> > > the approach you already have (first and last) is the way to go.
> > >
> > > Just asking the question, not arguing for a change!
> > 
> > Oh, this is so obvious... in hindsight! :)
> > 
> > Walter, what do you think?
> > 
> 
> u32 aux_stacks[2]; // = {0,0}
> 
> if (aux_stacks[0] != 0) {
>      aux_stacks[0] = stack;
> } else {
>     if (aux_stacks[1])
>          aux_stacks[0] = aux_stacks[1];
>     aux_stacks[1] = stack;
> }
> 
> Hmm...why I think it will always cover aux_stacks[0] after aux_stacks[0]
> has stack, it should not record last two stacks?
> 
> How about this:
> 
> u32 aux_stacks[2]; // = {0,0}
> 
> if (aux_stacks[1])
>     aux_stacks[0] = aux_stacks[1];
> aux_stacks[1] = stack;

Even better!  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> > I would do this. I think latter stacks are generally more interesting
> > wrt shedding light on a bug. The first stack may even be "statically
> > known" (e.g. if object is always queued into a workqueue for some lazy
> > initialization during construction).
> 
> I think it make more sense to record latter stack, too.
> 
> Thanks for your and Paul's suggestion.
> 
>