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Date:   Wed, 13 May 2020 20:03:53 +0900
From:   Tetsuo Handa <>
To:     Petr Mladek <>
Cc:     Sergey Senozhatsky <>,
        Michal Hocko <>,
        Steven Rostedt <>,, Dmitry Safonov <>,
        Yafang Shao <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Add loglevel for "do not print to consoles".

On 2020/05/13 19:04, Petr Mladek wrote:
>> What is wrong with adding NO_CONSOLES ?
> How does it differ from KERN_DEBUG? The debug messages:
>   + can be disabled via sysfs
>   + might reach console when this loglevel is enabled

itself does not affect userspace daemon's judgement (whether to filter
KERN_$LOGLEVEL messages).

> What is so special about  OOM dump task so that it would deserve such
> complications?

OOM dump task is special in that it can generate thousands of KERN_INFO
messages. If such messages are printed to consoles, it defers solving OOM

But setting /proc/sys/vm/oom_dump_tasks to 0 causes such messages being
not delivered to userspace daemon for later analysis. Therefore, we can not
set /proc/sys/vm/oom_dump_tasks to 0 if we want to save such messages for
later analysis.

Changing console loglevel (e.g. setting "quiet" kernel command line option)
in order to hide such messages also prevents all other KERN_INFO messages from
being printed to consoles. Since some KERN_INFO messages are worth printing to
consoles while other KERN_INFO messages are worth printing to consoles,
controlling with

>   + loglevel assigned to each message

is inevitable.

I think that basically only oops (e.g. WARN()/BUG()/panic()) messages worth
printing to consoles and the rest messages do not worth printing to consoles.
Existing KERN_$LOGLEVEL is too rough-grained.

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