Date:   Thu, 14 May 2020 15:35:58 +0200
From:   Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>
To:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/18] Rework READ_ONCE() to improve codegen

On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 13:05, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Marco,
>
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 09:31:49AM +0200, Marco Elver wrote:
> > Ouch. With the __{READ,WRITE}_ONCE requirement, we're going to need
> > Clang 11 though.
> >
> > Because without the data_race() around __*_ONCE,
> > arch_atomic_{read,set} will be broken for KCSAN, but we can't have
> > data_race() because it would still add
> > kcsan_{enable,disable}_current() calls to __no_sanitize functions (if
> > compilation unit is instrumented). We can't make arch_atomic functions
> > __no_sanitize_or_inline, because even in code that we want to
> > sanitize, they should remain __always_inline (so they work properly in
> > __no_sanitize functions). Therefore, Clang 11 with support for
> > distinguishing volatiles will be the compiler that will satisfy all
> > the constraints.
> >
> > If this is what we want, let me prepare a series on top of
> > -tip/locking/kcsan with all the things I think we need.
>
> Stepping back a second, the locking/kcsan branch is at least functional at
> the moment by virtue of KCSAN_SANITIZE := n being used liberally in
> arch/x86/. However, I still think we want to do better than that because (a)
> it would be good to get more x86 coverage and (b) enabling this for arm64,
> where objtool is not yet available, will be fragile if we have to whitelist
> object files. There's also a fair bit of arm64 low-level code spread around
> drivers/, so it feels like we'd end up with a really bad case of whack-a-mole.
>
> Talking off-list, Clang >= 7 is pretty reasonable wrt inlining decisions
> and the behaviour for __always_inline is:
>
>   * An __always_inline function inlined into a __no_sanitize function is
>     not instrumented
>   * An __always_inline function inlined into an instrumented function is
>     instrumented
>   * You can't mark a function as both __always_inline __no_sanitize, because
>     __no_sanitize functions are never inlined
>
> GCC, on the other hand, may still inline __no_sanitize functions and then
> subsequently instrument them.
>
> So if were willing to make KCSAN depend on Clang >= 7, then we could:
>
>   - Remove the data_race() from __{READ,WRITE}_ONCE()
>   - Wrap arch_atomic*() in data_race() when called from the instrumented
>     atomic wrappers
>
> At which point, I *think* everything works as expected. READ_ONCE_NOCHECK()
> won't generate any surprises, and Peter can happily use arch_atomic()
> from non-instrumented code.
>
> Thoughts? I don't see the need to support buggy compilers when enabling
> a new debug feature.

This is also a reply to
https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200514122038.GH3001@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net
-- the problem with __READ_ONCE would be solved with what Will
proposed above.

Let me try to spell out the requirements I see so far (this is for
KCSAN only though -- other sanitizers might be similar):

  1. __no_kcsan functions should not call anything, not even
kcsan_{enable,disable}_current(), when using __{READ,WRITE}_ONCE.
[Requires leaving data_race() off of these.]

  2. __always_inline functions inlined into __no_sanitize function is
not instrumented. [Has always been satisfied by GCC and Clang.]

  3. __always_inline functions inlined into instrumented function is
instrumented. [Has always been satisfied by GCC and Clang.]

  4. __no_kcsan functions should never be spuriously inlined into
instrumented functions, causing the accesses of the __no_kcsan
function to be instrumented. [Satisfied by Clang >= 7. All GCC
versions are broken.]

  5. we should not break atomic_{read,set} for KCSAN. [Because of #1,
we'd need to add data_race() around the arch-calls in
atomic_{read,set}; or rely on Clang 11's -tsan-distinguish-volatile
support (GCC 11 might get this as well).]

  6. never emit __tsan_func_{entry,exit}. [Clang supports disabling
this, GCC doesn't.]

  7. kernel is supported by compiler. [Clang >= 9 seems to build -tip
for me, anything below complains about lack of asm goto. GCC trivial.]

So, because of #4 & #6 & #7 we're down to Clang >= 9. Because of #5
we'll have to make a choice between Clang >= 9 or Clang >= 11
(released in ~June). In an ideal world we might even fix GCC in
future.

That's not even considering the problems around UBSan and KASAN. But
maybe one step at a time?

Any preferences?

Thanks,
-- Marco

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