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Date:   Fri, 15 May 2020 21:18:07 +0200
From:   Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
To:     Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>
Cc:     Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org,
        x86@...nel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Wanpeng Li <wanpengli@...cent.com>,
        Jim Mattson <jmattson@...gle.com>,
        Gavin Shan <gshan@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/8] KVM: x86: extend struct kvm_vcpu_pv_apf_data with
 token info

On 15/05/20 20:46, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>> The new one using #VE is not coming very soon (we need to emulate it for
>> <Broadwell and AMD processors, so it's not entirely trivial) so we are
>> going to keep "page not ready" delivery using #PF for some time or even
>> forever.  However, page ready notification as #PF is going away for good.
> 
> And isn't hardware based EPT Violation #VE going to require a completely
> different protocol than what is implemented today?  For hardware based #VE,
> KVM won't intercept the fault, i.e. the guest will need to make an explicit
> hypercall to request the page.

Yes, but it's a fairly simple hypercall to implement.

>> That said, type1/type2 is quite bad. :)  Let's change that to page not
>> present / page ready.
> 
> Why even bother using 'struct kvm_vcpu_pv_apf_data' for the #PF case?  VMX
> only requires error_code[31:16]==0 and SVM doesn't vet it at all, i.e. we
> can (ab)use the error code to indicate an async #PF by setting it to an
> impossible value, e.g. 0xaaaa (a is for async!).  That partciular error code
> is even enforced by the SDM, which states:

Possibly, but it's water under the bridge now.  And the #PF mechanism
also has the problem with NMIs that happen before the error code is read
and page faults happening in the handler (you may connect some dots now).

For #VE, the virtualization exception data area is enough to hold all
the data that is needed.

Paolo

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