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Date: Tue, 19 May 2020 12:44:54 -0700
From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
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Subject: Re: [patch V6 10/37] x86/entry: Switch XEN/PV hypercall entry to IDTENTRY
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 11:58 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
>
> Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org> writes:
> > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:10 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> >> @@ -573,6 +578,16 @@ static __always_inline void __idtentry_exit(struct pt_regs *regs)
> >> instrumentation_end();
> >> return;
> >> }
> >> + } else if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_XEN_PV)) {
> >> + if (preempt_hcall) {
> >> + /* See CONFIG_PREEMPTION above */
> >> + instrumentation_begin();
> >> + rcu_irq_exit_preempt();
> >> + xen_maybe_preempt_hcall();
> >> + trace_hardirqs_on();
> >> + instrumentation_end();
> >> + return;
> >> + }
> >
> > Ewwwww! This shouldn't be taken as a NAK -- it's just an expression
> > of disgust.
>
> I'm really not proud of it, but that was the least horrible thing I
> could come up with.
>
> > Shouldn't this be:
> >
> > instrumentation_begin();
> > if (!irq_needs_irq_stack(...))
> > __blah();
> > else
> > run_on_irqstack(__blah, NULL);
> > instrumentation_end();
> >
> > or even:
> >
> > instrumentation_begin();
> > run_on_irqstack_if_needed(__blah, NULL);
> > instrumentation_end();
>
> Yeah. In that case the instrumentation markers are not required as they
> will be inside the run....() function.
>
> > ****** BUT *******
> >
> > I think this is all arse-backwards. This is a giant mess designed to
> > pretend we support preemption and to emulate normal preemption in a
> > non-preemptible kernel. I propose one to two massive cleanups:
> >
> > A: Just delete all of this code. Preemptible hypercalls on
> > non-preempt kernels will still process interrupts but won't get
> > preempted. If you want preemption, compile with preemption.
>
> I'm happy to do so, but the XEN folks might have opinions on that :)
>
> > B: Turn this thing around. Specifically, in the one and only case we
> > care about, we know pretty much exactly what context we got this entry
> > in: we're running in a schedulable context doing an explicitly
> > preemptible hypercall, and we have RIP pointing at a SYSCALL
> > instruction (presumably, but we shouldn't bet on it) in the hypercall
> > page. Ideally we would change the Xen PV ABI so the hypercall would
> > return something like EAGAIN instead of auto-restarting and we could
> > ditch this mess entirely. But the ABI seems to be set in stone or at
> > least in molasses, so how about just:
> >
> > idt_entry(exit(regs));
> > if (inhcall && need_resched())
> > schedule();
>
> Which brings you into the situation that you call schedule() from the
> point where we just moved it out. If we would go there we'd need to
> ensure that RCU is watching as well. idtentry_exit() might have it
> turned off ....
I don't think this is possible. Once you untangle all the wrappers,
the call sites are effectively:
__this_cpu_write(xen_in_preemptible_hcall, true);
CALL_NOSPEC to the hypercall page
__this_cpu_write(xen_in_preemptible_hcall, false);
I think IF=1 when this happens, but I won't swear to it. RCU had
better be watching.
As I understand it, the one and only situation Xen wants to handle is
that an interrupt gets delivered during the hypercall. The hypervisor
is too clever for its own good and deals with this by rewinding RIP to
the beginning of whatever instruction did the hypercall and delivers
the interrupt, and we end up in this handler. So, if this happens,
the idea is to not only handle the interrupt but to schedule if
scheduling would be useful.
So I don't think we need all this RCU magic. This really ought to be
able to be simplified to:
idtentry_exit();
if (appropriate condition)
schedule();
Obviously we don't want to schedule if this is a nested entry, but we
should be able to rule that out by checking that regs->flags &
X86_EFLAGS_IF and by handling the percpu variable a little more
intelligently. So maybe the right approach is:
bool in_preemptible_hcall = __this_cpu_read(xen_in_preemptible_hcall);
__this_cpu_write(xen_in_preemptible_hcall, false);
idtentry_enter(...);
do the acutal work;
idtentry_exit(...);
if (in_preemptible_hcall) {
assert regs->flags & X86_EFLAGS_IF;
assert that RCU is watching;
assert that we're on the thread stack;
assert whatever else we feel like asserting;
if (need_resched())
schedule();
}
__this_cpu_write(xen_in_preemptible_hcall, in_preemptible_hcall);
And now we don't have a special idtentry_exit() case just for Xen, and
all the mess is entirely contained in the Xen PV code. And we need to
mark all the preemptible hypercalls noinstr. Does this seem
reasonable?
That being said, right now, with or without your patch, I think we're
toast if the preemptible hypercall code gets traced. So maybe the
right thing is to just drop all the magic preemption stuff from your
patch and let the Xen maintainers submit something new (maybe like
what I suggest above) if they want magic preemption back.
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