linux-kernel - Re: [patch V6 12/37] x86/entry: Provide idtentry_entry/exit_cond

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Message-ID: <CALCETrXbQkE1zTW5Ly+ZQgDFLQQa3crPxzK6to0YR+BP5B9q+g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 19 May 2020 13:24:45 -0700
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@...cle.com>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
        Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>,
        Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@...nel.org>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>,
        Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
        Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@....com>,
        Wei Liu <wei.liu@...nel.org>,
        Michael Kelley <mikelley@...rosoft.com>,
        Jason Chen CJ <jason.cj.chen@...el.com>,
        Zhao Yakui <yakui.zhao@...el.com>,
        "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [patch V6 12/37] x86/entry: Provide idtentry_entry/exit_cond_rcu()

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 1:20 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
>
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> writes:
> > Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org> writes:
> >> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 5:10 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> >>> The pagefault handler cannot use the regular idtentry_enter() because that
> >>> invokes rcu_irq_enter() if the pagefault was caused in the kernel. Not a
> >>> problem per se, but kernel side page faults can schedule which is not
> >>> possible without invoking rcu_irq_exit().
> >>>
> >>> Adding rcu_irq_exit() and a matching rcu_irq_enter() into the actual
> >>> pagefault handling code would be possible, but not pretty either.
> >>>
> >>> Provide idtentry_entry/exit_cond_rcu() which calls rcu_irq_enter() only
> >>> when RCU is not watching. The conditional RCU enabling is a correctness
> >>> issue: A kernel page fault which hits a RCU idle reason can neither
> >>> schedule nor is it likely to survive. But avoiding RCU warnings or RCU side
> >>> effects is at least increasing the chance for useful debug output.
> >>>
> >>> The function is also useful for implementing lightweight reschedule IPI and
> >>> KVM posted interrupt IPI entry handling later.
> >>
> >> Why is this conditional?  That is, couldn't we do this for all
> >> idtentry_enter() calls instead of just for page faults?  Evil things
> >> like NMI shouldn't go through this path at all.
> >
> > I thought about that, but then ended up with the conclusion that RCU
> > might be unhappy, but my conclusion might be fundamentally wrong.
>
> It's about this:
>
> rcu_nmi_enter()
> {
>         if (!rcu_is_watching()) {
>             make it watch;
>         } else if (!in_nmi()) {
>             do_magic_nohz_dyntick_muck();
>         }
>
> So if we do all irq/system vector entries conditional then the
> do_magic() gets never executed. After that I got lost...

I'm also baffled by that magic, but I'm also not suggesting doing this
to *all* entries -- just the not-super-magic ones that use
idtentry_enter().

Paul, what is this code actually trying to do?