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Date:   Tue, 19 May 2020 08:11:59 -0700
From:   Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com>
To:     Sai Prakash Ranjan <saiprakash.ranjan@...eaurora.org>
Cc:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>, Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        "list@....net:IOMMU DRIVERS , Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>," 
        <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
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        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iomm/arm-smmu: Add stall implementation hook

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 2:26 AM Sai Prakash Ranjan
<saiprakash.ranjan@...eaurora.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Will,
>
> On 2020-05-18 21:15, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 11:30:08AM -0600, Jordan Crouse wrote:
> >> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 08:40:40AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> >> > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 8:32 AM Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 5:54 AM Will Deacon <will@...nel.org> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 11:55:54AM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> >> > > > > On 2020-05-07 11:14 am, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
> >> > > > > > On 2020-04-22 01:50, Sai Prakash Ranjan wrote:
> >> > > > > > > Add stall implementation hook to enable stalling
> >> > > > > > > faults on QCOM platforms which supports it without
> >> > > > > > > causing any kind of hardware mishaps. Without this
> >> > > > > > > on QCOM platforms, GPU faults can cause unrelated
> >> > > > > > > GPU memory accesses to return zeroes. This has the
> >> > > > > > > unfortunate result of command-stream reads from CP
> >> > > > > > > getting invalid data, causing a cascade of fail.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > I think this came up before, but something about this rationale doesn't add
> >> > > > > up - we're not *using* stalls at all, we're still terminating faulting
> >> > > > > transactions unconditionally; we're just using CFCFG to terminate them with
> >> > > > > a slight delay, rather than immediately. It's really not clear how or why
> >> > > > > that makes a difference. Is it a GPU bug? Or an SMMU bug? Is this reliable
> >> > > > > (or even a documented workaround for something), or might things start
> >> > > > > blowing up again if any other behaviour subtly changes? I'm not dead set
> >> > > > > against adding this, but I'd *really* like to have a lot more confidence in
> >> > > > > it.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Rob mentioned something about the "bus returning zeroes" before, but I agree
> >> > > > that we need more information so that we can reason about this and maintain
> >> > > > the code as the driver continues to change. That needs to be a comment in
> >> > > > the driver, and I don't think "but android seems to work" is a good enough
> >> > > > justification. There was some interaction with HUPCF as well.
> >> > >
> >> > > The issue is that there are multiple parallel memory accesses
> >> > > happening at the same time, for example CP (the cmdstream processor)
> >> > > will be reading ahead and setting things up for the next draw or
> >> > > compute grid, in parallel with some memory accesses from the shader
> >> > > which could trigger a fault.  (And with faults triggered by something
> >> > > in the shader, there are *many* shader threads running in parallel so
> >> > > those tend to generate a big number of faults at the same time.)
> >> > >
> >> > > We need either CFCFG or HUPCF, otherwise what I have observed is that
> >> > > while the fault happens, CP's memory access will start returning
> >> > > zero's instead of valid cmdstream data, which triggers a GPU hang.  I
> >> > > can't say whether this is something unique to qcom's implementation of
> >> > > the smmu spec or not.
> >> > >
> >> > > *Often* a fault is the result of the usermode gl/vk/cl driver bug,
> >> > > although I don't think that is an argument against fixing this in the
> >> > > smmu driver.. I've been carrying around a local patch to set HUPCF for
> >> > > *years* because debugging usermode driver issues is so much harder
> >> > > without.  But there are some APIs where faults can be caused by the
> >> > > user's app on top of the usermode driver.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Also, I'll add to that, a big wish of mine is to have stall with the
> >> > ability to resume later from a wq context.  That would enable me to
> >> > hook in the gpu crash dump handling for faults, which would make
> >> > debugging these sorts of issues much easier.  I think I posted a
> >> > prototype of this quite some time back, which would schedule a worker
> >> > on the first fault (since there are cases where you see 1000's of
> >> > faults at once), which grabbed some information about the currently
> >> > executing submit and some gpu registers to indicate *where* in the
> >> > submit (a single submit could have 100's or 1000's of draws), and then
> >> > resumed the iommu cb.
> >> >
> >> > (This would ofc eventually be useful for svm type things.. I expect
> >> > we'll eventually care about that too.)
> >>
> >> Rob is right about HUPCF. Due to the parallel nature of the command
> >> processor
> >> there is always a very good chance that a CP access is somewhere in
> >> the bus so
> >> any pagefault is usually a death sentence. The GPU context bank would
> >> always
> >> want HUPCF set to 1.
> >
> > So this sounds like an erratum to me, and I'm happy to set HUPCF if we
> > detect the broken implementation. However, it will need an entry in
> > Documentation/arm64/silicon-errata.rst and a decent comment in the
> > driver
> > to explain what we're doing and why.
> >
>
> AFAIK there is no erratum documented internally for this behaviour and
> this
> exists from MSM8996 SoC time and errata usually don't survive this long
> across generation of SoCs and there is no point for us in disguising it.

possibly longer, qcom_iommu sets CFCFG..

> Is it OK if we clearly mention it as the "design limitation" or some
> other
> term which we can agree upon along with the description which Rob and
> Jordan
> provided for setting HUPCF in the driver when we add the set_hupcf
> callback?

I'm not too picky on what we call it, but afaict it has been this way
since the beginning of time, rather than specific to a certain SoC or
generation of SoCs.  So it doesn't seem like the hw designers consider
it a bug.

(I'm not sure what the expected behavior is.. nor if any other SMMU
implementation encounters this sort of situation..)

BR,
-R

>
> Thanks,
> Sai
>
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