linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] Qualcomm Cloud AI 100 driver

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Message-ID: <20200519173323.GB1158284@kroah.com>
Date:   Tue, 19 May 2020 19:33:23 +0200
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>
Cc:     Jeffrey Hugo <jhugo@...eaurora.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        manivannan.sadhasivam@...aro.org, bjorn.andersson@...aro.org,
        wufan@...eaurora.org, pratanan@...eaurora.org,
        linux-arm-msm <linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] Qualcomm Cloud AI 100 driver

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 03:08:42PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 00:12, Jeffrey Hugo <jhugo@...eaurora.org> wrote:
> >
> > Introduction:
> > Qualcomm Cloud AI 100 is a PCIe adapter card which contains a dedicated
> > SoC ASIC for the purpose of efficently running Deep Learning inference
> > workloads in a data center environment.
> >
> > The offical press release can be found at -
> > https://www.qualcomm.com/news/releases/2019/04/09/qualcomm-brings-power-efficient-artificial-intelligence-inference
> >
> > The offical product website is -
> > https://www.qualcomm.com/products/datacenter-artificial-intelligence
> >
> > At the time of the offical press release, numerious technology news sites
> > also covered the product.  Doing a search of your favorite site is likely
> > to find their coverage of it.
> >
> > It is our goal to have the kernel driver for the product fully upstream.
> > The purpose of this RFC is to start that process.  We are still doing
> > development (see below), and thus not quite looking to gain acceptance quite
> > yet, but now that we have a working driver we beleive we are at the stage
> > where meaningful conversation with the community can occur.
> 
> 
> Hi Jeffery,
> 
> Just wondering what the userspace/testing plans for this driver.
> 
> This introduces a new user facing API for a device without pointers to
> users or tests for that API.
> 
> Although this isn't a graphics driver, and Greg will likely merge
> anything to the kernel you throw at him, I do wonder how to validate
> the uapi from a security perspective. It's always interesting when
> someone wraps a DMA engine with user ioctls, and without enough
> information to decide if the DMA engine is secure against userspace
> misprogramming it.

Hey, I'll not merge just anything!

Oh, well, maybe, if it's in staging :)

> Also if we don't understand the programming API on board the device,
> we can't tell if the "core" on the device are able to reprogram the
> device engines either.
> 
> Figuring this out is difficult at the best of times, it helps if there
> is access to the complete device documentation or user space side
> drivers in order to faciliate this.
> 
> The other area I mention is testing the uAPI, how do you envisage
> regression testing and long term sustainability of the uAPI?

I agree with this request, we should have some code that we can run in
order to test that things work properly.

thanks,

greg k-h