linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 4/6] mm/hmm: add output flag for compound page mapping

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Message-ID: <59a26e8b-0f1a-a1f6-9dc7-ebfecdd58688@nvidia.com>
Date:   Tue, 26 May 2020 15:47:40 -0700
From:   Ralph Campbell <rcampbell@...dia.com>
To:     Zi Yan <ziy@...dia.com>
CC:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, <nouveau@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        <linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Jerome Glisse" <jglisse@...hat.com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>,
        "Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@...lanox.com>,
        Ben Skeggs <bskeggs@...hat.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, <willy@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] mm/hmm: add output flag for compound page mapping


On 5/26/20 3:29 PM, Zi Yan wrote:
> On 8 May 2020, at 16:06, Ralph Campbell wrote:
> 
>> On 5/8/20 12:51 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 12:20:07PM -0700, Ralph Campbell wrote:
>>>> hmm_range_fault() returns an array of page frame numbers and flags for
>>>> how the pages are mapped in the requested process' page tables. The PFN
>>>> can be used to get the struct page with hmm_pfn_to_page() and the page size
>>>> order can be determined with compound_order(page) but if the page is larger
>>>> than order 0 (PAGE_SIZE), there is no indication that the page is mapped
>>>> using a larger page size. To be fully general, hmm_range_fault() would need
>>>> to return the mapping size to handle cases like a 1GB compound page being
>>>> mapped with 2MB PMD entries. However, the most common case is the mapping
>>>> size the same as the underlying compound page size.
>>>> Add a new output flag to indicate this so that callers know it is safe to
>>>> use a large device page table mapping if one is available.
>>>
>>> Why do you need the flag?  The caller should be able to just use
>>> page_size() (or willys new thp_size helper).
>>>
>>
>> The question is whether or not a large page can be mapped with smaller
>> page table entries with different permissions. If one process has a 2MB
>> page mapped with 4K PTEs with different read/write permissions, I don't think
>> it would be OK for a device to map the whole 2MB with write access enabled.
>> The flag is supposed to indicate that the whole page can be mapped by the
>> device with the indicated read/write permissions.
> 
> If hmm_range_fault() only walks one VMA at a time, you would not have this permission
> issue, right? Since all pages from one VMA should have the same permission.
> But it seems that hmm_range_fault() deals with pages across multiple VMAs.
> Maybe we should make hmm_range_fault() bail out early when it encounters
> a VMA with a different permission than the existing ones?
> 
> 
> —
> Best Regards,
> Yan Zi

I don't think so. The VMA might have read/write permission but the page table might
have read-only permission in order to trigger a fault for copy-on-write. Or the
PTE might be read-only or invalid to trigger faults for architectures that don't
have hardware updated accessed bits and are using the minor faults to update LRU.
The goal is that the MM core see the same faults whether the HMM device accesses
memory or a CPU thread.