linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/4] bpf: Implement bpf_local

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Message-ID: <CACYkzJ6f0=r4h9sNqnXp_uBnHu=b6oGQFFGOv7H65UMOjtNKaw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 27 May 2020 19:09:05 +0200
From:   KP Singh <kpsingh@...omium.org>
To:     Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Security Module list 
        <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Florent Revest <revest@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/4] bpf: Implement bpf_local_storage for inodes

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 6:41 PM Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com> wrote:
>
> On 5/27/2020 5:38 AM, KP Singh wrote:
> > On 26-May 22:08, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 06:33:34PM +0200, KP Singh wrote:
> >>> From: KP Singh <kpsingh@...gle.com>
> >>>
> >>> Similar to bpf_local_storage for sockets, add local storage for inodes.
> >>> The life-cycle of storage is managed with the life-cycle of the inode.
> >>> i.e. the storage is destroyed along with the owning inode.
> >>>
> >>> Since, the intention is to use this in LSM programs, the destruction is
> >>> done after security_inode_free in __destroy_inode.
> >> NAK onbloating the inode structure.  Please find an out of line way
> >> to store your information.
> > The other alternative is to use lbs_inode (security blobs) and we can
> > do this without adding fields to struct inode.
>
> This is the correct approach, and always has been. This isn't the
> first ( or second :( ) case where the correct behavior for an LSM
> has been pretty darn obvious, but you've taken a different approach
> for no apparent reason.
>
> > Here is a rough diff (only illustrative, won't apply cleanly) of the
> > changes needed to this patch:
> >
> >  https://gist.github.com/sinkap/1d213d17fb82a5e8ffdc3f320ec37d79
>
> To do just a little nit-picking, please use bpf_inode() instead of
> bpf_inode_storage(). This is in keeping with the convention used by
> the other security modules. Sticking with the existing convention
> makes it easier for people (and tools) that work with multiple
> security modules.
>
> > Once tracing has gets a whitelist based access to inode storage, I
> > guess it, too, can use bpf_local_storage for inodes
>
> Only within the BPF module. Your sentence above is slightly garbled,
> so I'm not really sure what you're saying, but if you're suggesting
> that tracing code outside of the BPF security module can use the
> BPF inode data, the answer is a resounding "no".

This is why I wanted to add a separate pointer in struct inode so that
we could share the implementation with tracing. bpf_local_storage
is managed (per-program+per-type of storage) with separate BPF maps.
So, it can be easily shared between two programs (and
program types) without them clobbering over each other.

I guess we can have separate pointers for tracing,
use the pointer in the security blob for the LSM and discuss this separately
if and when we use this for tracing and keep this series patches scoped to
BPF_PROG_TYPE_LSM.

- KP

>
> >  if CONFIG_BPF_LSM
> > is enabled. Does this sound reasonable to the BPF folks?
> >
> > - KP
> >
> >
>