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Date:   Wed, 27 May 2020 11:19:29 +0100
From:   Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>
To:     Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>
Cc:     Keno Fischer <keno@...iacomputing.com>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Kyle Huey <khuey@...nos.co>, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arm64: Register modification during syscall entry/exit stop

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:55:29AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 02:56:35AM -0400, Keno Fischer wrote:
> > Just ran into this issue again, with what I think may be most compelling
> > example yet why this is problematic:
> > 
> > The tracee incurred a signal, we PTRACE_SYSEMU'd to the rt_sigreturn,
> > which the tracer tried to emulate by applying the state from the signal frame.
> > However, the PTRACE_SYSEMU stop is a syscall-stop, so the tracer's write
> > to x7 was ignored and x7 retained the value it had in the signal handler,
> > which broke the tracee.
> 
> Yeah, that sounds like a good justification to add a way to stop this. Could
> you send a patch, please?
> 
> Interestingly, I *thought* the current behaviour was needed by strace, but I
> can't find anything there that seems to require it. Oh well, we're stuck
> with it anyway.

The fact that PTRACE_SYSEMU is only implemented for a few arches makes
we wonder whether it was a misguided addition that should not be ported
to new arches... i.e., why does hardly anyone need it?  But I haven't
attempted to understand the history.

Can't PTRACE_SYSEMU be emulated by using PTRACE_SYSCALL, cancelling the
syscall at the syscall enter stop, then modifying the regs at the
syscall exit stop?


If SYSEMU was obviously always broken, perhaps we can withdraw support
for it.  Assuming nobody is crazy enough to try to emulate execve() I
can't see anything other than sigreturn that would be affected by this
issue though.  So maybe SYSEMU isn't broken enough to justify
withdrawal.

Cheers
---Dave

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