linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH ethtool v1] netlink: add master/slave configuration support

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Message-Id: <20200609.123437.1057990370119930723.davem@davemloft.net>
Date:   Tue, 09 Jun 2020 12:34:37 -0700 (PDT)
From:   David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>
To:     keescook@...omium.org
Cc:     stephen@...workplumber.org, o.rempel@...gutronix.de,
        andrew@...n.ch, f.fainelli@...il.com, hkallweit1@...il.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH ethtool v1] netlink: add master/slave configuration
 support

From: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 12:29:54 -0700

> Given what I've seen from other communities and what I know of the kernel
> community, I don't think we're going to get consensus on some massive
> global search/replace any time soon. However, I think we can get started
> on making this change with just stopping further introductions. (I view
> this like any other treewide change: stop new badness from getting
> added, and chip away as old ones as we can until it's all gone.)

The terminology being suggested by these changes matches what is used
in the standards and literature.

Inventing something creates confusion for those who are familiar with
these pieces of technology already, and those who are not who are
reading about it elsewhere.

Both groups will be terminally confused if we use different words.

For such pain, there should be agood reason.  I don't accept Stephen's
quoted standards bodies "efforts" as a legitimate reason, or evidence
of such, as it has a lot of holes in it as Edward pointed out.  I
found the Orwell references to be quite ironic actually.