linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 5/5] LSM: Define workqueue for measuring security module state

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Message-ID: <CAEjxPJ61dup9HDQny_TAb7we-vcN-sM17y4x0Pos3d7ERaab9g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 15 Jun 2020 11:47:37 -0400
From:   Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@...il.com>
To:     Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com>
Cc:     Lakshmi Ramasubramanian <nramas@...ux.microsoft.com>,
        Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley@...il.com>,
        Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
        James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
        linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org,
        LSM List <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] LSM: Define workqueue for measuring security module state

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 10:59 AM Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2020-06-15 at 09:33 -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 10:42 PM Lakshmi Ramasubramanian
> > <nramas@...ux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The data maintained by the security modules could be tampered with by
> > > malware. The LSM needs to periodically query the state of
> > > the security modules and measure the data when the state is changed.
> > >
> > > Define a workqueue for handling this periodic query and measurement.
> >
> > Won't this make it difficult/impossible to predict the IMA PCR value?
> > Unless I missed it, you are going to end up measuring every N minutes
> > even if there was no change and therefore constantly be extending the
> > PCR.  That will break attestation or sealing against the IMA PCR.
>
> Even if it attempts to add the same measurement to the list multiple
> times, unless something changed, there should only be one measurement
> in the list.

Is the PCR only extended once?