lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:   Thu, 18 Jun 2020 08:54:58 -0600
From:   jim.cromie@...il.com
To:     Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
Cc:     Jason Baron <jbaron@...mai.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, akpm@...uxfoundation.org,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Rasmus Villemoes <linux@...musvillemoes.dk>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        Orson Zhai <orson.zhai@...soc.com>,
        Linux Documentation List <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 19/21] dyndbg: extend ddebug_parse_flags to accept
 optional leading filter-flags

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 6:44 AM Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed 2020-06-17 10:25:34, Jim Cromie wrote:
> > Change ddebug_parse_flags to accept optional filterflags before the
> > required operator [-+=].  Read the flags into the filter_flags
> > parameter added in the previous patch.  So this now supplies the
> > filterflags to ddebug_exec_query.
> >
> > filterflags work like query terms, they constrain what callsites get
> > matched before theyre modified.  So like a query, they can be empty.
> >
> > Filterflags let you read callsite's flagstate, including results of
> > previous modifications, and require that certain flags are set, before
> > modifying the callsite further.
> >
> > So you can build up sets of callsites by marking them with a
> > particular flagstate, for example 'fmlt', then enable that set in a
> > batch.
> >
> >   echo fmlt+p >control
> >
> > Naturally you can use almost any combo of flags you want for marking,
> > and can mark several different sets with different patterns.  And then
> > you can activate them in a bunch:
> >
> >   echo 'ft+p; mt+p; lt+p;' >control
> >
> > + * Parse `str' as a flags-spec, ie: [pfmlt_]*[-+=][pfmlt_]+
>
> This interface is simply _horrible_ and I do not see a point in this feature!!!
>
> I as a normal dynamic debug user am interested into:
>
>    + enabling/disabling messages from a given module/file/line/function
>    + list of available modules/files/lines/functions
>    + list of enabled modules/files/lines/functions
>
> I do not understand why I would ever want to do something like:
>
>    + enable messages that print module name and line number
>    + disable message that does not print a module name

messages dont print them, the flags do, according to USER CHOICE.
a developer who is deeply familiar with the code doesnt need to
see most of it in the logs, average user might need them to comprehend things.

>
> In fact, IMHO, all the 'flmt' flags were a wrong idea and nobody
> really needed them. This information in not needed by other
> printk() messages. Why pr_debug() would need them?
> They just made the code and interface complicated.
>

it looks like they landed fully formed in lib/dynamic_debug.c
probably because that was a unification of several different print
debug systems.

you are free to set them globally:
echo +fmlt >control

or just the ones youre using
echo up+fmlt >control

> Please, stop all this non-sense!!!
>
> Best Regards,
> Petr

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ