linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] pci: Add parameter to disable attaching untrusted devices

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Message-ID: <20200627050225.GA226238@kroah.com>
Date:   Sat, 27 Jun 2020 07:02:25 +0200
From:   Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Rajat Jain <rajatja@...gle.com>
Cc:     David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>,
        Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
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        Raj Ashok <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        "Krishnakumar, Lalithambika" <lalithambika.krishnakumar@...el.com>,
        Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
        Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@...aro.org>,
        Prashant Malani <pmalani@...gle.com>,
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        Todd Broch <tbroch@...gle.com>,
        Alex Levin <levinale@...gle.com>,
        Mattias Nissler <mnissler@...gle.com>,
        Rajat Jain <rajatxjain@...il.com>,
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        Jesse Barnes <jsbarnes@...gle.com>,
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        Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] pci: Add parameter to disable attaching untrusted
 devices

On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 11:53:34AM -0700, Rajat Jain wrote:
> a) I think what was decided was introducing a device core "location"
> property that can be exposed to userspace to help it to decide whether
> or not to attach a driver to a device. Yes, that is still the plan.

Great, but this patch ignores that and starts to add policy :(

> (Mild sidenote: userspace may not need to distinguish between internal
> and external devices if it can assume that no internal PCI devices
> will show up after "echo 0 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers_autoprobe". But
> nevertheless...)

It can not assume that.

> b) Note that even with (a) in place, we still need a parameter that
> can ensure that drivers are not bound to external devices at boot,
> *before* userspace gets a chance to disable "drivers_autoprobe".

Why do you think you need that?  I kind of doubt you really want this,
but ick, if you really do, make it a policy decision that you bake into
the kernel as a build option, so that no one else has to use it :)

> https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/6/15/1453

Ick, please use lore.kernel.org, we don't control lkml.org and it's not
all that reliable.

> Is it OK to add such a parameter in device core?

You don't have internal/external/wherever in the driver core yet, so
don't start adding policy before you get that...

thanks,

greg k-h