linux-kernel - RE: [PATCH v3 02/14] iommu: Report domain nesting info

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Date:   Tue, 30 Jun 2020 03:45:09 +0000
From:   "Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@...el.com>
To:     "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>,
        Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com>
CC:     "alex.williamson@...hat.com" <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
        "eric.auger@...hat.com" <eric.auger@...hat.com>,
        "baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com" <baolu.lu@...ux.intel.com>,
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        "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@...el.com>,
        "Tian, Jun J" <jun.j.tian@...el.com>,
        "Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@...el.com>,
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        "peterx@...hat.com" <peterx@...hat.com>,
        "Wu, Hao" <hao.wu@...el.com>,
        "iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v3 02/14] iommu: Report domain nesting info

> From: Tian, Kevin <kevin.tian@...el.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2020 10:01 AM
>
> > From: Liu, Yi L <yi.l.liu@...el.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:23 PM
> >
> > Hi Stefan,
> >
> > > From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 5:25 PM
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 01:55:15AM -0700, Liu Yi L wrote:
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * struct iommu_nesting_info - Information for nesting-capable IOMMU.
> > > > + *				user space should check it before using
> > > > + *				nesting capability.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * @size:	size of the whole structure
> > > > + * @format:	PASID table entry format, the same definition with
> > > > + *		@format of struct iommu_gpasid_bind_data.
> > > > + * @features:	supported nesting features.
> > > > + * @flags:	currently reserved for future extension.
> > > > + * @data:	vendor specific cap info.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * +---------------+----------------------------------------------------+
> > > > + * | feature       |  Notes                                             |
> > > > + *
> > >
> > +===============+===============================================
> > ====
> > > =+
> > > > + * | SYSWIDE_PASID |  Kernel manages PASID in system wide, PASIDs
> > used  |
> > > > + * |               |  in the system should be allocated by host kernel  |
> > > > + * +---------------+----------------------------------------------------+
> > > > + * | BIND_PGTBL    |  bind page tables to host PASID, the PASID could   |
> > > > + * |               |  either be a host PASID passed in bind request or  |
> > > > + * |               |  default PASIDs (e.g. default PASID of aux-domain) |
> > > > + * +---------------+----------------------------------------------------+
> > > > + * | CACHE_INVLD   |  mandatory feature for nesting capable IOMMU
> > |
> > > > + * +---------------+----------------------------------------------------+
> > >
> > > This feature description is vague about what CACHE_INVLD does and how
> > to
> > > use it. If I understand correctly, the presence of this feature means
> > > that VFIO_IOMMU_NESTING_OP_CACHE_INVLD must be used?
> > >
> > > The same kind of clarification could be done for SYSWIDE_PASID and
> > > BIND_PGTBL too.
> >
> > For SYSWIDE_PASID and BIND_PGTBL, yes, presence of the feature bit
> > means must use. So the two are requirements to user space if it wants
> > to setup nesting. While for CACHE_INVLD, it's kind of availability
> > here. How about removing CACHE_INVLD as presence of BIND_PGTBL should
> > indicates support of CACHE_INVLD?
> >
> 
> So far this assumption is correct but it may not be true when thinking forward.
> For example, a vendor might find a way to allow the owner of 1st-level page
> table to directly invalidate cache w/o going through host IOMMU driver. From
> this angle I feel explicitly reporting this capability is more robust.

I see. explicitly require 1st-level page table owner to do cache invalidation after
modifying page table is fair to me.

> Regarding to the description, what about below?
> 
> --
> SYSWIDE_PASID: PASIDs are managed in system-wide, instead of per device.
> When a device is assigned to userspace or VM, proper uAPI (provided by
> userspace driver framework, e.g. VFIO) must be used to allocate/free PASIDs
> for the assigned device.
> 
> BIND_PGTBL: The owner of the first-level/stage-1 page table must explicitly
> bind the page table to associated PASID (either the one specified in bind
> request or the default PASID of the iommu domain), through VFIO_IOMMU
> _NESTING_OP
> 
> CACHE_INVLD: The owner of the first-level/stage-1 page table must
> explicitly invalidate the IOMMU cache through VFIO_IOMMU_NESTING_OP,
> according to vendor-specific requirement when changing the page table.
> --

thanks for the statements, will apply.

Regards,
Yi Liu

> Thanks
> Kevin
> 
>