linux-kernel - Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology

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Message-ID: <CAPM=9txOgRYc7RM3fzohB4=Ejcp_xMGLBX_OOCOD=r+W6D678A@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Sun, 5 Jul 2020 09:34:57 +1000
From:   Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>
To:     Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>
Cc:     Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        ksummit <ksummit-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org>,
        Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        tech-board-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [PATCH] CodingStyle: Inclusive Terminology

On Sun, 5 Jul 2020 at 06:45, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2020 13:02:51 -0700 Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com> wrote:
> >
> > +Linux kernel inclusive terminology
> > +==================================
> > +
> > +The Linux kernel is a global software project, and in 2020 there was a
> > +global reckoning on race relations that caused many organizations to
> > +re-evaluate their policies and practices relative to the inclusion of
> > +people of African descent. This document describes why the 'Naming'
>
> I feel a need to point out that racial issues are wider than just
> people of African descent ...  Also, others have pointed out that
> slavery is not just restricted to those of African descent.

The racial issues are wider than that, and even wider again I'm sure,
but in 2020 this is as good a place to start as any, and the trigger
as that sentence says was in 2020, there was a reckoning about it
mainly due to people of African descent. That trigger has had flow on
effects in other countries, but I'm not sure that sentence in any way
diminishes that, it's merely an introduction to why this change is
happening now.

As for the non-black slavery, others have never pointed this out
before in 30 years of master/slave terminology? surely if white
slavery was as big a problem, they be as supportive of this, even more
so. It speaks volumes that I've never heard white slavery as a problem
once in 30 years, but now I'm hearing about it a few times, and
somehow as an excuse not to support this.

Dave.