linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] io_uring: add support for zone-append

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Message-ID: <CA+1E3r+H7WEyfTufNz3xBQQynOVV-uD3myYynkfp7iU+D=Svuw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 10 Jul 2020 00:06:58 +0530
From:   Kanchan Joshi <joshiiitr@...il.com>
To:     Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        Kanchan Joshi <joshi.k@...sung.com>, viro@...iv.linux.org.uk,
        bcrl@...ck.org, Damien.LeMoal@....com, asml.silence@...il.com,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        Matias Bjørling <mb@...htnvm.io>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-aio@...ck.org,
        io-uring@...r.kernel.org, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        Selvakumar S <selvakuma.s1@...sung.com>,
        Nitesh Shetty <nj.shetty@...sung.com>,
        Javier Gonzalez <javier.gonz@...sung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] io_uring: add support for zone-append

On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:36 PM Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk> wrote:
>
> On 7/9/20 8:00 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 07:58:04AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
> >>> We don't actually need any new field at all.  By the time the write
> >>> returned ki_pos contains the offset after the write, and the res
> >>> argument to ->ki_complete contains the amount of bytes written, which
> >>> allow us to trivially derive the starting position.

Deriving starting position was not the purpose at all.
But yes, append-offset is not needed, for a different reason.
It was kept for uring specific handling. Completion-result from lower
layer was always coming to uring in ret2 via ki_complete(....,ret2).
And ret2 goes to CQE (and user-space) without any conversion in between.
For polled-completion, there is a short window when we get ret2 but cannot
write into CQE immediately, so thought of storing that in append_offset
(but should not have done, solving was possible without it).

FWIW, if we move to indirect-offset approach, append_offset gets
eliminated automatically, because there is no need to write to CQE
itself.

> >> Then let's just do that instead of jumping through hoops either
> >> justifying growing io_rw/io_kiocb or turning kiocb into a global
> >> completion thing.
> >
> > Unfortunately that is a totally separate issue - the in-kernel offset
> > can be trivially calculated.  But we still need to figure out a way to
> > pass it on to userspace.  The current patchset does that by abusing
> > the flags, which doesn't really work as the flags are way too small.
> > So we somewhere need to have an address to do the put_user to.
>
> Right, we're just trading the 'append_offset' for a 'copy_offset_here'
> pointer, which are stored in the same spot...

The address needs to be stored somewhere. And there does not seem
other option but to use io_kiocb?
The bigger problem with address/indirect-offset is to be able to write to it
during completion as process-context is different. Will that require entering
into task_work_add() world, and may make it costly affair?

Using flags have not been liked here, but given the upheaval involved so
far I have begun to feel - it was keeping things simple. Should it be
reconsidered?

--
Joshi