linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys

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Message-ID: <20200713072912.ibpojadruifdgnu2@pali>
Date:   Mon, 13 Jul 2020 09:29:12 +0200
From:   Pali Rohár <pali@...nel.org>
To:     Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@...il.com>
Cc:     Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@...l.com>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andy@...radead.org>,
        Darren Hart <dvhart@...radead.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Platform Driver <platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org>,
        Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>, y.linux@...itcher.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys

On Thursday 09 July 2020 22:29:42 Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 10:23 PM <Mario.Limonciello@...l.com> wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Y Paritcher <y.linux@...itcher.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 12:57 PM
> > > To: Pali Rohár
> > > Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; platform-driver-x86@...r.kernel.org;
> > > Matthew Garrett; Limonciello, Mario
> > > Subject: [PATCH v4 0/3] platform/x86: dell-wmi: new keys
> > >
> > >
> > > [EXTERNAL EMAIL]
> > >
> > > change since v3:
> > >     No code changes.
> > >     Update commit message to reflect info given by Mario at dell.
> > >
> > > Is there anything more i have to do for the patches that were reviewed
> > > or will they be picked up by the maintainers?
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Y Paritcher (3):
> > >   platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new backlight events
> > >   platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new keymap type 0x0012
> > >   platform/x86: dell-wmi: add new dmi mapping for keycode 0xffff
> > >
> > >  drivers/platform/x86/dell-wmi.c | 28 +++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> > >  1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > 2.27.0
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > The whole series looks good to me now.  You can put this on the patches
> > when they're swooped up.
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@...l.com>
> >
> > However I would like to note there was a comment that you had a direct question
> > asked by Pali that probably got lost in the thread.  This was on patch 3/3 on v3.
> > I think it's worth answering as it could dictate a follow up patch to change behavior.
> >
> > The summary of my argument which led to his is nested somewhere in the thread was that
> > to most users this isn't useful since they can't act on it.  IE they can't use something
> > like setkeycodes and go on their merry way.  The user who could act on it by coming
> > to upstream and submitting questions and patches is more technical and having them
> > use dyndbg to turn on the messages about unknown shouldn't be a big deal.
> >
> > > I'm not sure, but I thought that
> > > throwing warning or info message is the correct solution. Driver cannot
> > > handle something, so it inform about it, instead of silently dropping
> > > event. Same behavior I'm seeing in other kernel drivers.
> >
> > > But looks like that you and Mario have opposite opinion, that kernel
> > > should not log unknown events and rather should drop them.
> >
> > > I would like to have behavior of dell-wmi same as in other drivers for
> > > consistency, so the best would be to ask WMI/platform maintainers. They
> > > could have opinion how to handle these problem globally.
> >
> > > ...
> >
> > > Darren & Andy, could you please say something to this, what do you think
> > > about silently dropping events/actions which are currently unknown for
> > > dell-wmi driver? It is better to log them or not? Currently we are
> > > logging them.
> >
> > Can you please advise which way you would rather have the subsystem go?
> 
> Seems Pali is okay with this version, so everything is settled I suppose.
> I will add it to my queue, thanks!

Hello Andy! Yes, I'm fine with this patch series, but question how to
handle these "unknown" events still remains.