linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 12/15] kmap: Add stray write protection for device pages

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Message-ID: <20200714200040.GF3008823@iweiny-DESK2.sc.intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 14 Jul 2020 13:00:40 -0700
From:   Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@...el.com>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, x86@...nel.org,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@...el.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@...el.com>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 12/15] kmap: Add stray write protection for device
 pages

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:42:11PM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 7/14/20 12:29 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 12:06:16PM -0700, Ira Weiny wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 10:44:51AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >>> So, if I followed along correctly, you're proposing to do a WRMSR per
> >>> k{,un}map{_atomic}(), sounds like excellent performance all-round :-(
> >> Only to pages which have this additional protection, ie not DRAM.
> >>
> >> User mappings of this memory is not affected (would be covered by User PKeys if
> >> desired).  User mappings to persistent memory are the primary use case and the
> >> performant path.
> > Because performance to non-volatile memory doesn't matter? I think Dave
> > has a better answer here ...
> 
> So, these WRMSRs are less evil than normal.  They're architecturally
> non-serializing instructions, just like the others in the SDM WRMSR
> documentation:
> 
> 	Note that WRMSR to the IA32_TSC_DEADLINE MSR (MSR index 6E0H)
> 	and the X2APIC MSRs (MSR indices 802H to 83FH) are  not
> 	serializing.
> 
> This section of the SDM needs to be updated for the PKRS.  Also note
> that the PKRS WRMSR is similar in its ordering properties to WRPKRU:
> 
> 	WRPKRU will never execute speculatively. Memory accesses
> 	affected by PKRU register will not execute (even speculatively)
> 	until all prior executions of WRPKRU have completed execution
> 	and updated the PKRU register.
> 
> Which means we don't have to do silliness like LFENCE before WRMSR to
> get ordering *back*.  This is another tidbit that needs to get added to
> the SDM.  It should probably also get captured in the changelog.
> 
> But, either way, this *will* make accessing PMEM more expensive from the
> kernel.  No escaping that.  But, we've also got customers saying they
> won't deploy PMEM until we mitigate this stray write issue.  Those folks
> are quite willing to pay the increased in-kernel cost for increased
> protection from stray kernel writes.  Intel is also quite motivated
> because we really like increasing the number of PMEM deployments. :)
> 
> Ira, can you make sure this all gets pulled into the changelogs somewhere?

Yes of course.  Thanks for writing that up.

Ira