linux-kernel - Re: [SchedulerWakeupLatency] Per-task vruntime wakeup bonus

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Message-ID: <46c7f966-6679-bb9e-dabe-bb385298d19b@arm.com>
Date:   Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:48:37 +0200
From:   Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@....com>
To:     Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@...bug.net>
Cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "Peter Zijlstra (Intel)" <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@...hat.com>,
        Paul Turner <pjt@...gle.com>, Ben Segall <bsegall@...gle.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Dhaval Giani <dhaval.giani@...cle.com>,
        Josef Bacik <jbacik@...com>,
        Chris Hyser <chris.hyser@...cle.com>,
        Parth Shah <parth@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [SchedulerWakeupLatency] Per-task vruntime wakeup bonus

On 13/07/2020 14:59, Vincent Guittot wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Jul 2020 at 21:59, Patrick Bellasi
> <patrick.bellasi@...bug.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2020 at 15:21:48 +0200, Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org> wrote...

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>>> Instead, it should weight the decision in wakeup_preempt_entity() and
>>> wakeup_gran()
>>
>> In those functions we already take the task prio into consideration
>> (ref details at the end of this message).
>>
>> Lower nice value tasks have more chances to preempt current since they
>> will have a smaller wakeup_gran, indeed:
> 
> yes, and this is there to ensure a fair distribution of running time
> and prevent a task to increase significantly its vruntime compare to
> others
> 
> -1 min that se already got more runtime than current
> 0 that se's vruntime will go above current's vruntime after a runtime
> duration of  sched_min_granularity
> and 1 means that se got less runtime than current and its vruntime
> will still be lower than current ones even after a runtime duration of
> sched_min_granularity
> 
> IMHO, latency_nice should impact the decision only for case 0 but not
> the case -1 and 1.
> That being said, we can extend the case 0 a bit to include the
> situation where current's vruntime will become greater than se's
> vruntimes after a runtime duration of  sched_min_granularity like
> below:
> 
>                                                            curr->vruntime
>                                           |<-- wakeup_gran(se) -->|<--
> wakeupgran(curr) -->|
> current range: se->vruntime          +1   |        0              |    -1
> new range:     se->vruntime          +1   |                       0
>                     |   -1
> 

I assume this got messed up by line break somehow:

                                                   curr->vruntime
                                 |<-- wakeup_gran(se) -->|<-- wakeup_gran(curr) -->|
current range: se->vruntime  +1  |        0              |    -1
new range:     se->vruntime  +1  |                       0                         | -1

IMHO, with the current use of wakeup_preempt_entity() I don't see what
will change with that.
We check 'wakeup_preempt_entity() == 1' in check_preempt_wakeup() and 
'wakeup_preempt_entity() < 1' in pick_next_entity().

How should the mapping between se's latency_nice value to the consideration of
wakeup_gran(curr) look like?

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