linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV

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Message-ID: <1596469370.29091.13.camel@HansenPartnership.com>
Date:   Mon, 03 Aug 2020 08:42:50 -0700
From:   James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
To:     "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
        Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@...cle.com>
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        Anthony Yznaga <anthony.yznaga@...cle.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] madvise MADV_DOEXEC

On Mon, 2020-08-03 at 10:28 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
[...]
> What is wrong with live migration between one qemu process and
> another qemu process on the same machine not work for this use case?
> 
> Just reusing live migration would seem to be the simplest path of
> all, as the code is already implemented.  Further if something goes
> wrong with the live migration you can fallback to the existing
> process.  With exec there is no fallback if the new version does not
> properly support the handoff protocol of the old version.

Actually, could I ask this another way: the other patch set you sent to
the KVM list was to snapshot the VM to a PKRAM capsule preserved across
kexec using zero copy for extremely fast save/restore.  The original
idea was to use this as part of a CRIU based snapshot, kexec to new
system, restore.  However, why can't you do a local snapshot, restart
qemu, restore using the PKRAM capsule to achieve exactly the same as
MADV_DOEXEC does but using a system that's easy to reason about?  It
may be slightly slower, but I think we're still talking milliseconds.

James