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Date:   Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:05:18 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     Mike Rapoport <rppt@...nel.org>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Christopher Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@...el.com>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>, Idan Yaniv <idan.yaniv@....com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        James Bottomley <jejb@...ux.ibm.com>,
        "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.ibm.com>,
        Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
        Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@...belt.com>,
        Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.ws>, Will Deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        linux-api@...r.kernel.org, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@...ts.01.org,
        linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org, x86@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create
 "secret" memory areas

On 19.08.20 13:42, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:47:54PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 18.08.20 16:15, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>>> From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.ibm.com>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor. 
>>>
>>> v4 changes:
>>> * rebase on v5.9-rc1
>>> * Do not redefine PMD_PAGE_ORDER in fs/dax.c, thanks Kirill
>>> * Make secret mappings exclusive by default and only require flags to
>>>   memfd_secret() system call for uncached mappings, thanks again Kirill :)
>>>
>>> v3 changes:
>>> * Squash kernel-parameters.txt update into the commit that added the
>>>   command line option.
>>> * Make uncached mode explicitly selectable by architectures. For now enable
>>>   it only on x86.
>>>
>>> v2 changes:
>>> * Follow Michael's suggestion and name the new system call 'memfd_secret'
>>> * Add kernel-parameters documentation about the boot option
>>> * Fix i386-tinyconfig regression reported by the kbuild bot.
>>>   CONFIG_SECRETMEM now depends on !EMBEDDED to disable it on small systems
>>>   from one side and still make it available unconditionally on
>>>   architectures that support SET_DIRECT_MAP.
>>>
>>>
>>> The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
>>> dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
>>> memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
>>> of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
>>> memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
>>> the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
>>> table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
>>>
>>> Although normally Linux userspace mappings are protected from other users, 
>>> such secret mappings are useful for environments where a hostile tenant is
>>> trying to trick the kernel into giving them access to other tenants
>>> mappings.
>>>
>>> Additionally, the secret mappings may be used as a mean to protect guest
>>> memory in a virtual machine host.
>>>
>>
>> Just a general question. I assume such pages (where the direct mapping
>> was changed) cannot get migrated - I can spot a simple alloc_page(). So
>> essentially a process can just allocate a whole bunch of memory that is
>> unmovable, correct? Is there any limit? Is it properly accounted towards
>> the process (memctl) ?
> 
> The memory as accounted in the same way like with mlock(), so normal
> user won't be able to allocate more than RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.

Okay, thanks. AFAIU the difference to mlock() is that the pages here are
not movable, fragment memory, and limit compaction. Hm.

-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb

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