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Date:   Sat, 22 Aug 2020 18:39:09 +0200
To:     Michel Lespinasse <>
Cc:     Ingo Molnar <>, Will Deacon <>,
        Davidlohr Bueso <>,
        LKML <>
Subject: Re: Lockdep question regarding two-level locks

On Sat, Aug 22, 2020 at 09:04:09AM -0700, Michel Lespinasse wrote:
> Hi,
> I am wondering about how to describe the following situation to lockdep:
> - lock A would be something that's already implemented (a mutex or
> possibly a spinlock).
> - lock B is a range lock, which I would be writing the code for
> (including lockdep hooks). I do not expect lockdep to know about range
> locking, but I want it to treat lock B like any other and detect lock
> ordering issues related to it.
> - lock A protects a number of structures, including lock B's list of
> locked ranges, but other structures as well.
> - lock A is intended to be held for only short periods of time, lock
> B's ranges might be held for longer.

That's the 'normal' state for blocking locks, no?

See how both struct mutex and struct rw_semaphore have internal locks.

> Usage would be along the following lines:
> acquire:
> A_lock();
> // might access data protected by A here
> bool blocked = B_lock(range); // must be called under lock A; will
> release lock A if blocking on B.
> // might access data protected by A here (especially to re-validate in
> case A was released while blocking on B...)
> A_unlock()
> release:
> A_lock()
> // might access data protected by A here
> A_B_unlock(range); // must be called under lock A; releases locks A and B.

up_{read,write}() / mutex_unlock() release 'B', the actual lock, early,
and then take 'A', the internal lock, to actually implement the release.

That way lockdep doesn't see the B-A order :-)

> There might also be other places that need to lock A for a short time,
> either inside and outside of lock B.

Any cases that aren't covered by the current implementation of rwsems ?

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