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Date:   Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:10:37 -0700
From:   Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>
To:     Arvind Sankar <nivedita@...m.mit.edu>,
        Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@...nel.org>
Cc:     Dávid Bolvanský <david.bolvansky@...il.com>,
        Eli Friedman <efriedma@...cinc.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Michal Marek <michal.lkml@...kovi.net>,
        Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Tony Luck <tony.luck@...el.com>,
        Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>,
        Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
        Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
        Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>,
        Daniel Axtens <dja@...ens.net>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
        Alexandru Ardelean <alexandru.ardelean@...log.com>,
        Yury Norov <yury.norov@...il.com>,
        "maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)" <x86@...nel.org>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>,
        "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com>,
        Bruce Ashfield <bruce.ashfield@...il.com>,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Vamshi K Sthambamkadi <vamshi.k.sthambamkadi@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] -ffreestanding/-fno-builtin-* patches

On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:34 AM Arvind Sankar <nivedita@...m.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 12:57:22AM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> >
> >
> > To prevent transformation from foo() into bar(),
> > there are two ways in Clang to do that;
> > -fno-builtin-foo, and -fno-builtin-bar.
> > There is only one in GCC; -fno-buitin-foo.
> >
> > Is this correct?
> >
>
> It looked that way from previous experimentation, but...
>
> >
> >
> > I just played the optimization
> > from printf("helloworld\n") to puts("helloworld").
> >
> > https://godbolt.org/z/5s4ded
> >
> >
> > -fno-builtin-puts cannot prevent clang
> > from emitting puts.
> > Is it because clang does not support
> > -fno-builtin-puts?
>
> Ugh. clang doesn't have __builtin_puts() but it optimizes printf() into
> puts(). It doesn't have __builtin_putchar() but will optimize
> printf("c") into putchar('c').

Bah, merely a <strikethrough>flesh
wound</strikethrough><strikethrough>compiler bug</strikethrough>rather
long TODO in the compiler.
https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/blob/be2bc7d4cef2edd66c7fb74b70adf62fc68754db/clang/include/clang/Basic/Builtins.def#L943

Anyways, give me a week and I'll hack through the rest of them
https://reviews.llvm.org/D86508.  Certainly made HPA's point hit home,
that's a lot of functionality to implement or disable in an
environment.

Masahiro, are you implying that we shouldn't take the
-fno-builtin-stpcpy patch, because Clang is inconsistent? (That can be
fixed.) Even though -fno-builtin-stpcpy works here as intended?
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200817220212.338670-2-ndesaulniers@google.com/

Otherwise we need to provide an implementation of this symbol in the kernel.
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200815020946.1538085-1-ndesaulniers@google.com/

Please, pick your poison.
-- 
Thanks,
~Nick Desaulniers

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