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Message-ID: <20200825072538.GB22869@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Date:   Tue, 25 Aug 2020 09:25:38 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
To:     Alex Shi <alex.shi@...ux.alibaba.com>
Cc:     Qian Cai <cai@....pw>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@...il.com>,
        cgroups@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, nao.horiguchi@...il.com,
        osalvador@...e.de, mike.kravetz@...cle.com
Subject: Re: [Resend PATCH 1/6] mm/memcg: warning on !memcg after readahead
 page charged

On Tue 25-08-20 09:25:01, Alex Shi wrote:
> reproduce using our linux-mm random bug collection on NUMA systems.
> >>
> >> OK, I must have missed that this was on ppc. The order makes more sense
> >> now. I will have a look at this next week.
> > 
> > OK, so I've had a look and I know what's going on there. The
> > move_pages12 is migrating hugetlb pages. Those are not charged to any
> > memcg. We have completely missed this case. There are two ways going
> > around that. Drop the warning and update the comment so that we do not
> > forget about that or special case hugetlb pages.
> > 
> > I think the first option is better.
> > 
> 
> 
> Hi Michal,
> 
> Compare to ignore the warning which is designed to give, seems addressing
> the hugetlb out of charge issue is a better solution, otherwise the memcg
> memory usage is out of control on hugetlb, is that right?

Hugetlb memory is out of memcg scope deliberately. This is not a
reclaimable memory and something that can easily get out of control. The
memory is preallocated and overcommit is strictly controlled as well. We
have a dedicated hugetlb cgroup controller to offer a better control of
the preallocated pool distribution.

Anyway this just shows that there are more subtle cases where a page
with no memcg can hit some common paths so the patch is clearly not
ready.

I should have realized that when giving my ack but same as you I got
misled by the existing comment.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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