linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v11 25/25] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch

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Date:   Thu, 27 Aug 2020 11:56:44 -0700
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:     "Yu, Yu-cheng" <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com>
Cc:     Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>,
        "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>, Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>, X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
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        Balbir Singh <bsingharora@...il.com>,
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        Vedvyas Shanbhogue <vedvyas.shanbhogue@...el.com>,
        Weijiang Yang <weijiang.yang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 25/25] x86/cet/shstk: Add arch_prctl functions for shadow stack



> On Aug 27, 2020, at 11:13 AM, Yu, Yu-cheng <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com> wrote:
> 
> On 8/27/2020 6:36 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> * H. J. Lu:
>>>> On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 6:19 AM Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * Dave Martin:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're right that this has implications: for i386, libc probably pulls
>>>>>> more arguments off the stack than are really there in some situations.
>>>>>> This isn't a new problem though.  There are already generic prctls with
>>>>>> fewer than 4 args that are used on x86.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As originally posted, glibc prctl would have to know that it has to pull
>>>>> an u64 argument off the argument list for ARCH_X86_CET_DISABLE.  But
>>>>> then the u64 argument is a problem for arch_prctl as well.
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Argument of ARCH_X86_CET_DISABLE is int and passed in register.
>> The commit message and the C source say otherwise, I think (not sure
>> about the C source, not a kernel hacker).
> 
> H.J. Lu suggested that we fix x86 arch_prctl() to take four arguments, and then keep MMAP_SHSTK as an arch_prctl().  Because now the map flags and size are all in registers, this also solves problems being pointed out earlier.  Without a wrapper, the shadow stack mmap call (from user space) will be:
> 
> syscall(_NR_arch_prctl, ARCH_X86_CET_MMAP_SHSTK, size, MAP_32BIT).

I admit I don’t see a show stopping technical reason we can’t add arguments to an existing syscall, but I’m pretty sure it’s unprecedented, and it doesn’t seem like a good idea.