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Date:   Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:24:27 -0400
From:   Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 08/23] sched: Add core wide task selection and
 scheduling.

Hi Peter,

On Sat, Aug 29, 2020 at 09:47:19AM +0200, peterz@...radead.org wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 06:02:25PM -0400, Vineeth Pillai wrote:
> > On 8/28/20 4:51 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
> > > So where do things go side-ways?
> 
> > During hotplug stress test, we have noticed that while a sibling is in
> > pick_next_task, another sibling can go offline or come online. What
> > we have observed is smt_mask get updated underneath us even if
> > we hold the lock. From reading the code, looks like we don't hold the
> > rq lock when the mask is updated. This extra logic was to take care of that.
> 
> Sure, the mask is updated async, but _where_ is the actual problem with
> that?
> 
> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 06:23:55PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > Thanks Vineeth. Peter, also the "v6+" series (which were some addons on v6)
> > detail the individual hotplug changes squashed into this patch:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200815031908.1015049-9-joel@joelfernandes.org/
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200815031908.1015049-11-joel@joelfernandes.org/
> 
> That one looks fishy, the pick is core wide, making that pick_seq per rq
> just doesn't make sense.

I think Vineeth was trying to handle the case where rq->core_pick happened to
be NULL for an offline CPU, and then schedule() is called when it came online
but its sched_seq != core-wide pick_seq. The reason for this situation is
because a sibling did selection for the offline CPU and ended up leaving its
rq->core_pick as NULL as the then-offline CPU was missing from the
cpu_smt_mask, but it incremented the core-wide pick_seq anyway.

Due to this, the pick_next_task() can crash after entering this if() block:
+	if (rq->core_pick_seq == rq->core->core_task_seq &&
+	    rq->core_pick_seq != rq->core_sched_seq) {

How would you suggest to fix it? Maybe we can just assign rq->core_sched_seq
== rq->core_pick_seq for an offline CPU (or any CPU where rq->core_pick ==
NULL), so it does not end up using rq->core_pick and does a full core-wide
selcetion again when it comes online?

Or easier, check for rq->core_pick == NULL and skip this fast-path if() block
completely.

> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200815031908.1015049-12-joel@joelfernandes.org/
> 
> This one reads like tinkering, there is no description of the actual
> problem just some code that makes a symptom go away.
> 
> Sure, on hotplug the smt mask can change, but only for a CPU that isn't
> actually scheduling, so who cares.
> 
> /me re-reads the hotplug code...
> 
> ..ooOO is the problem that we clear the cpumasks on take_cpu_down()
> instead of play_dead() ?! That should be fixable.

I think Vineeth explained this in his email, there is logic across the loops
in the pick_next_task() that depend on the cpu_smt_mask not change. I am not
sure if play_dead() will fix it, the issue is seen in the code doing the
selection and the cpu_smt_mask changing under it due to possibly other CPUs
going offline.

Example, you have a splat and null pointer dereference possibilities in the
below loop if rq_i ->core_pick == NULL, because a sibling CPU came online but
a task was not selected for it in the for loops prior to this for loop:

        /*
         * Reschedule siblings
         *
         * NOTE: L1TF -- at this point we're no longer running the old task and
         * sending an IPI (below) ensures the sibling will no longer be running
         * their task. This ensures there is no inter-sibling overlap between
         * non-matching user state.
         */
        for_each_cpu(i, smt_mask) {
                struct rq *rq_i = cpu_rq(i);

                WARN_ON_ONCE(!rq_i->core_pick);

                if (is_idle_task(rq_i->core_pick) && rq_i->nr_running)
                        rq_i->core_forceidle = true;

                rq_i->core_pick->core_occupation = occ;

Probably the code can be rearchitected to not depend on cpu_smt_mask
changing.  What I did in my old tree is I made a copy of the cpu_smt_mask in
the beginning of this function, and that makes all the problems go away. But
I was afraid of overhead of that copying.

(btw, I would not complain one bit if this function was nuked and rewritten
to be simpler).

> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200815031908.1015049-13-joel@joelfernandes.org/
> 
> This is the only one that makes some sense, it makes rq->core consistent
> over hotplug.

Cool at least we got one thing right ;)

> > Agreed we can split the patches for the next series, however for final
> > upstream merge, I suggest we fix hotplug issues in this patch itself so that
> > we don't break bisectability.
> 
> Meh, who sodding cares about hotplug :-). Also you can 'fix' such things
> by making sure you can't actually enable core-sched until after
> everything is in place.

Fair enough :)

thanks,

 - Joel

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