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Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 16:36:35 +0200
From: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>,
Lina Iyer <ilina@...eaurora.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] cpu_pm: Remove RCU abuse
On Thu, 3 Sep 2020 at 15:53, <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 05:58:55PM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 14:14, <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 09:03:37AM +0200, Ulf Hansson wrote:
> > > > Lots of cpuidle drivers are using CPU_PM notifiers (grep for
> > > > cpu_pm_enter and you will see) from their idlestates ->enter()
> > > > callbacks. And for those we are already calling
> > > > rcu_irq_enter_irqson|off() in cpu_pm_notify() when firing them.
> > >
> > > Yeah, that particular trainwreck is on my todo list already ... then
> > > again, that list is forever overflowing.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking cpu_pm_unregister_notifier() is not a common thing? The few
> > > I looked at seem to suggest 'never' is a good approximation.
> >
> > The trend is that drivers are turning into regular modules that may
> > also need to manage "->remove()", which may mean unregistering the
> > notifier. Of course, I don't know for sure whether that becomes a
> > problem, but it seems quite limiting.
>
> You can pin modules, once they're loaded they can never be removed
> again.
>
> Anyway, the below should 'work', I think.
>
> ---
> diff --git a/kernel/cpu_pm.c b/kernel/cpu_pm.c
> index f7e1d0eccdbc..72804e0883d5 100644
> --- a/kernel/cpu_pm.c
> +++ b/kernel/cpu_pm.c
> @@ -12,21 +12,18 @@
> #include <linux/notifier.h>
> #include <linux/spinlock.h>
> #include <linux/syscore_ops.h>
> +#include <linux/cpu.h>
> +#include <linux/smp.h>
>
> -static ATOMIC_NOTIFIER_HEAD(cpu_pm_notifier_chain);
> +static RAW_NOTIFIER_HEAD(cpu_pm_notifier_chain);
> +static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(cpu_pm_lock);
>
> static int cpu_pm_notify(enum cpu_pm_event event)
> {
> int ret;
>
> - /*
> - * atomic_notifier_call_chain has a RCU read critical section, which
> - * could be disfunctional in cpu idle. Copy RCU_NONIDLE code to let
> - * RCU know this.
> - */
> - rcu_irq_enter_irqson();
> - ret = atomic_notifier_call_chain(&cpu_pm_notifier_chain, event, NULL);
> - rcu_irq_exit_irqson();
> + lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();
Nitpick, maybe the lockdep should be moved to a separate patch.
> + ret = raw_notifier_call_chain(&cpu_pm_notifier_chain, event, NULL);
Converting to raw_notifiers seems reasonable - if we need to avoid the
RCU usage.
My point is, I wonder about if the notifier callbacks themselves are
safe from RCU usage. For example, I would not be surprised if tracing
is happening behind them.
Moreover, I am not sure that we really need to prevent and limit
tracing from happening. Instead we could push rcu_idle_enter|exit()
further down to the arch specific code in the cpuidle drivers, as you
kind of all proposed earlier.
In this way, we can step by step, move to a new "version" of
cpu_pm_enter() that doesn't have to deal with rcu_irq_enter_irqson(),
because RCU hasn't been pushed to idle yet.
[...]
Kind regards
Uffe
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