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Date:   Sat, 5 Sep 2020 11:05:48 +0530
From:   Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org>
To:     Palmer Dabbelt <palmerdabbelt@...gle.com>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, Anup Patel <Anup.Patel@....com>,
        Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@...ive.com>,
        Albert Ou <aou@...s.berkeley.edu>,
        Atish Patra <Atish.Patra@....com>,
        Alistair Francis <Alistair.Francis@....com>,
        linux-riscv <linux-riscv@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] RISC-V: Allow drivers to provide custom read_cycles64 for
 M-mode kernel

Hi Palmer,

On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 9:14 AM Anup Patel <anup@...infault.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 6:47 AM Palmer Dabbelt <palmerdabbelt@...gle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 04 Sep 2020 09:57:09 PDT (-0700), Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 10:13:18PM +0530, Anup Patel wrote:
> > >> I respectfully disagree. IMHO, the previous code made the RISC-V
> > >> timer driver convoluted (both SBI call and CLINT in one place) and
> > >> mandated CLINT for NoMMU kernel. In fact, RISC-V spec does not
> > >> mandate CLINT or PLIC. The RISC-V SOC vendors are free to
> > >> implement their own timer device, IPI device and interrupt controller.
> > >
> > > Yes, exactly what we need is everyone coming up with another stupid
> > > non-standard timer and irq driver.
> >
> > Well, we don't have a standard one so there's really no way around people
> > coming up with their own.  It doesn't seem reasonable to just say "SiFive's
> > driver landed first, so we will accept no other timer drivers for RISC-V
> > systems".
>
> I share the same views here.
>
> In ARM 32bit world (arch/arm/), we have the same problem with no standard
> timer device, IPI device, and interrupt controller. The ARM GICv2/GICv3 and
> ARM Generic Timers were standardized very late in the ARM world so by that
> time we had lots of custom timers and interrupt controllers. All these ARM
> timer and interrupt controller drivers are now part of drivers/clocksource and
> drivers/irqchip.
>
> The ARM 32bit world has following indirections available to drivers:
> 1. set_smp_cross_call() in asm/smp.h for IPI injection
>     (We have riscv_set_ipi_ops() in asm/smp.h)
> 2. register_current_timer_delay() in asm/delay.h
>     (My patch is proposing riscv_set_read_cycles64() in asm/timex.h)
>
> For RISC-V S-mode (MMU) kernel, we are using SBI calls for IPIs and
> "TIME CSR + SBI calls" (i.e. RISC-V timer) as timer device which simplifies
> things for regular S-mode kernel.
>
> For RISC-V M-mode (NoMMU) kernel, we don't have any SBI provider
> so we end-up having separate drivers for timer device, and IPI device
> which is similar to ARM 32bit world.
>
> >
> > > But the point is this crap came in after -rc1, and it adds totally
> > > pointless indirect calls to the IPI path, and with your "fix" also
> > > to get_cycles which all have exactly one implementation for MMU or
> > > NOMMU kernels.
> > >
> > > So the only sensible thing is to revert all this crap.  And if at some
> > > point we actually have to deal with different implementations do it
> > > with alternatives or static_branch infrastructure so that we don't
> > > pay the price for indirect calls in the super hot path.
> >
> > I'm OK reverting the dynamic stuff, as I can buy it needs more time to bake,
> > but I'm not sure performance is the right argument -- while this is adding an
> > indirection, decoupling MMU/NOMMU from the timer driver is the first step
> > towards getting rid of the traps which are a way bigger performance issue than
> > the indirection (not to mention the issue of relying on instructions that don't
> > technically exist in the ISA we're relying on any more).
> >
> > I'm not really convinced the timers are on such a hot path that an extra load
> > is that bad, but I don't have that much experience with this stuff so you may
> > be right.  I'd prefer to keep the driver separate, though, and just bring back
> > the direct CLINT implementation in timex.h -- we've only got one implementation
> > for now anyway, so it doesn't seem that bad to just inline it (and I suppose I
> > could buy that the ISA says this register has to behave this way, though I
> > don't think that's all that strong of an argument).
> >
> > I'm not convinced this is a big performance hit for IPIs either, but we could
> > just do the same thing over there -- though I guess I'd be much less convinced
> > about any arguments as to the ISA having a say in that as IIRC it's a lot more
> > hands off.
> >
> > Something like this seems to fix the rdtime issue without any extra overhead,
> > but I haven't tested it
>
> I had initially thought about directly doing MMIO in asm/timex.h.
>
> Your patch is CLINT specific because it assumes a 64bit MMIO register which
> is always counting upwards. This will break if we have downard counting timer
> on some SOC. It will also break if some SOC has implementation specific CSR
> for reading cycles.

Your patch will also break if the SOC specific timer has a 32bit
free-running counter
unlike the 64bit free-running counter found on CLINT.

I guess it's better to let the SOC timer driver provide the
method/function to read the
free-running counter.

Regards,
Anup

>
> I am fine with your patch if you can address the above mentioned issue.
>
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/riscv/include/asm/clint.h b/arch/riscv/include/asm/clint.h
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 000000000000..51909ab60ad0
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/arch/riscv/include/asm/clint.h
> > @@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
> > +/* SPDX-License-Identifier: GPL-2.0-only */
> > +/*
> > + * Copyright (C) 2020 Google, Inc
> > + */
> > +
> > +#ifndef _ASM_RISCV_CLINT_H
> > +#define _ASM_RISCV_CLINT_H
> > +
> > +#include <linux/types.h>
> > +#include <asm/mmio.h>
> > +
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_M_MODE
> > +/*
> > + * This lives in the CLINT driver, but is accessed directly by timex.h to avoid
> > + * any overhead when accessing the MMIO timer.
> > + */
> > +extern u64 __iomem *clint_time_val;
> > +#endif
> > +
> > +#endif
> > diff --git a/arch/riscv/include/asm/timex.h b/arch/riscv/include/asm/timex.h
> > index a3fb85d505d4..7f659dda0032 100644
> > --- a/arch/riscv/include/asm/timex.h
> > +++ b/arch/riscv/include/asm/timex.h
> > @@ -10,6 +10,31 @@
> >
> >  typedef unsigned long cycles_t;
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_M_MODE
> > +
> > +#include <asm/clint.h>
> > +
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_64BIT
> > +static inline cycles_t get_cycles(void)
> > +{
> > +       return readq_relaxed(clint_time_val);
> > +}
> > +#else /* !CONFIG_64BIT */
> > +static inline u32 get_cycles(void)
> > +{
> > +       return readl_relaxed(((u32 *)clint_time_val));
> > +}
> > +#define get_cycles get_cycles
> > +
> > +static inline u32 get_cycles_hi(void)
> > +{
> > +       return readl_relaxed(((u32 *)clint_time_val) + 1);
> > +}
> > +#define get_cycles_hi get_cycles_hi
> > +#endif /* CONFIG_64BIT */
> > +
> > +#else /* CONFIG_RISCV_M_MODE */
> > +
> >  static inline cycles_t get_cycles(void)
> >  {
> >         return csr_read(CSR_TIME);
> > @@ -41,6 +66,8 @@ static inline u64 get_cycles64(void)
> >  }
> >  #endif /* CONFIG_64BIT */
> >
> > +#endif /* !CONFIG_RISCV_M_MODE */
> > +
> >  #define ARCH_HAS_READ_CURRENT_TIMER
> >  static inline int read_current_timer(unsigned long *timer_val)
> >  {
> > diff --git a/drivers/clocksource/timer-clint.c b/drivers/clocksource/timer-clint.c
> > index 8eeafa82c03d..43ae0f885bfa 100644
> > --- a/drivers/clocksource/timer-clint.c
> > +++ b/drivers/clocksource/timer-clint.c
> > @@ -19,6 +19,11 @@
> >  #include <linux/interrupt.h>
> >  #include <linux/of_irq.h>
> >  #include <linux/smp.h>
> > +#include <linux/timex.h>
> > +
> > +#ifndef CONFIG_MMU
> > +#include <asm/clint.h>
> > +#endif
> >
> >  #define CLINT_IPI_OFF          0
> >  #define CLINT_TIMER_CMP_OFF    0x4000
> > @@ -31,6 +36,10 @@ static u64 __iomem *clint_timer_val;
> >  static unsigned long clint_timer_freq;
> >  static unsigned int clint_timer_irq;
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_M_MODE
> > +u64 __iomem *clint_time_val;
> > +#endif
> > +
> >  static void clint_send_ipi(const struct cpumask *target)
> >  {
> >         unsigned int cpu;
> > @@ -184,6 +193,14 @@ static int __init clint_timer_init_dt(struct device_node *np)
> >         clint_timer_val = base + CLINT_TIMER_VAL_OFF;
> >         clint_timer_freq = riscv_timebase;
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_RISCV_M_MODE
> > +       /*
> > +        * Yes, that's an odd naming scheme.  time_val is public, but hopefully
> > +        * will die in favor of something cleaner.
> > +        */
> > +       clint_time_val = clint_timer_val;
> > +#endif
> > +
> >         pr_info("%pOFP: timer running at %ld Hz\n", np, clint_timer_freq);
> >
> >         rc = clocksource_register_hz(&clint_clocksource, clint_timer_freq);
> >
>
> Regards,
> Anup

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