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Date:   Wed, 9 Sep 2020 14:59:51 +0800
From:   Xiaoming Ni <nixiaoming@...wei.com>
To:     Amir Goldstein <amir73il@...il.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>
CC:     Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        <wangle6@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: Question: Why is there no notification when a file is opened
 using filp_open()?

On 2020/9/9 11:44, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:19 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 04:18:29PM +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 3:53 PM Xiaoming Ni <nixiaoming@...wei.com> wrote:
>>>> For example, in fs/coredump.c, do_coredump() calls filp_open() to
>>>> generate core files.
>>>> In this scenario, the fsnotify_open() notification is missing.
>>>
>>> I am not convinced that we should generate an event.
>>> You will have to explain in what is the real world use case that requires this
>>> event to be generated.
>>
>> Take the typical usage for fsnotify of a graphical file manager.
>> It would be nice if the file manager showed a corefile as soon as it
>> appeared in a directory rather than waiting until some other operation
>> in that directory caused those directory contents to be refreshed.
> 
> fsnotify_open() is not the correct notification for file managers IMO.
> fsnotify_create() is and it will be called in this case.
> 
> If the reason you are interested in open events is because you want
> to monitor the entire filesystem then welcome to the future -
> FAN_CREATE is supported since kernel v5.1.
> 
> Is there another real life case you have in mind where you think users
> should be able to get an open fd for a file that the kernel has opened?
> Because that is what FAN_OPEN will do.
> 

There are also cases where file is opened in read-only mode using 
filp_open().

case1: nfsd4_init_recdir() call filp_open()
filp_open()
nfsd4_init_recdir() fs/nfsd/nfs4recover.c#L543

L70: static char user_recovery_dirname[PATH_MAX] = 
"/var/lib/nfs/v4recovery";
L543: nn->rec_file = filp_open(user_recovery_dirname, O_RDONLY | 
O_DIRECTORY, 0);


case2: ima_read_policy()
filp_open()
kernel_read_file_from_path()  fs/exec.c#L1004
ima_read_policy()  security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c#L286
ima_write_policy() security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c#L335
ima_measure_policy_ops   security/integrity/ima/ima_fs.c#L443
sys_write()

case3: use do_file_open_root() to open file
do_file_open_root()
file_open_root()   fs/open.c#L1159
kernel_read_file_from_path_initns()  fs/exec.c#L1029
fw_get_filesystem_firmware()  drivers/base/firmware_loader/main.c#L498

Do we need to add fsnotify_open() in these scenarios?

Thanks
Xiaoming Ni

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