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Date:   Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:57:43 +0200 (CEST)
From:   Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@...il.com>
To:     David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
cc:     Lukas Bulwahn <lukas.bulwahn@...il.com>,
        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        Ryder Lee <ryder.lee@...iatek.com>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org,
        Ralf Ramsauer <ralf.ramsauer@...-regensburg.de>,
        Pia Eichinger <pia.eichinger@...oth-regensburg.de>,
        Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>, kernel-janitors@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: make linux-mediatek list remarks
 consistent



On Mon, 14 Sep 2020, David Woodhouse wrote:

> On Mon, 2020-09-14 at 16:01 +0200, Lukas Bulwahn wrote:
> > > > I am not subscribed to linux-mediatek. When I sent an email to the list,
> > > > it showed up really seconds later in the lore.kernel.org of the
> > > > linux-mediatek public-inbox repository. So, either it was delivered
> > > > quickly as it is not moderated or my check with lore.kernel.org is wrong,
> > > > e.g., mails show up in the lore.kernel.org archive, even they were not
> > > > yet permitted on the actual list.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm the moderator and I get requests to moderate emails. I suppose I added you
> > > to the accepted list because of earlier emails you send.
> > > 
> > 
> > Okay, I see. I did send some clean-up patch in the past, but I completely 
> > forgot that, but my mailbox did not forget. So, now it is clear to me why 
> > that mail showed up so quickly.
> > 
> > Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> AFAICT the linux-mediatek list isn't configured to automatically
> moderate messages from non-subscribers. Its generic_nonmember_action
> setting is 'Accept'. That is the default setting for lists on
> infradead.org and I strongly encourage list maintainers to leave it
> that way.
> 
> Lukas, I don't see your address in the allowlist either.
> 
> There are other reasons why some messages get might trapped for
> moderation — the message size, number of recipients, spam score, etc.
> 
> The mere fact that *some* messages are moderated does not mean that the
> list is "moderated for non-subscribers" in the sense that the
> MAINTAINERS file lists.
>
> > Bjorn, with that confirmation and Reviewed-by from Matthias, could you 
> > please pick this patch?
> 
> I think we should be fixing the ones that *do* say it's moderated for
> non-subscribers, not the one that correctly didn't :)
> 

Well, I am happy to send any PATCH v2. I guess we, you, David, Matthias 
and I, now just need to determine if the list is moderated or not.

I will then adjust MAINTAINERS to the final conclusion.

Lukas

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