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Message-ID: <20200928204258.GA2705@linux.intel.com>
Date:   Mon, 28 Sep 2020 23:42:58 +0300
From:   Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@...rix.com>
Cc:     x86@...nel.org, linux-sgx@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@...el.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        Jethro Beekman <jethro@...tanix.com>,
        Cedric Xing <cedric.xing@...el.com>, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
        andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com, asapek@...gle.com, bp@...en8.de,
        chenalexchen@...gle.com, conradparker@...gle.com,
        cyhanish@...gle.com, dave.hansen@...el.com, haitao.huang@...el.com,
        josh@...htriplett.org, kai.huang@...el.com, kai.svahn@...el.com,
        kmoy@...gle.com, ludloff@...gle.com, luto@...nel.org,
        nhorman@...hat.com, npmccallum@...hat.com, puiterwijk@...hat.com,
        rientjes@...gle.com, tglx@...utronix.de, yaozhangx@...gle.com,
        "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>,
        Yu-cheng Yu <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v38 21/24] x86/vdso: Implement a vDSO for Intel SGX
 enclave call

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 05:44:35PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 28/09/2020 01:58, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 07:23:59PM +0100, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> >> On 15/09/2020 12:28, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> >>> diff --git a/arch/x86/entry/vdso/vsgx_enter_enclave.S b/arch/x86/entry/vdso/vsgx_enter_enclave.S
> >>> new file mode 100644
> >>> index 000000000000..adbd59d41517
> >>> --- /dev/null
> >>> +++ b/arch/x86/entry/vdso/vsgx_enter_enclave.S
> >>> @@ -0,0 +1,157 @@
> >>> +SYM_FUNC_START(__vdso_sgx_enter_enclave)
> >>> <snip>
> >>> +.Lretpoline:
> >>> +	call	2f
> >>> +1:	pause
> >>> +	lfence
> >>> +	jmp	1b
> >>> +2:	mov	%rax, (%rsp)
> >>> +	ret
> >> I hate to throw further spanners in the work, but this is not compatible
> >> with CET, and the user shadow stack work in progress.
> > CET goes beyond my expertise. Can you describe, at least rudimentary,
> > how this code is not compatible?
> 
> CET Shadow Stacks detect attacks which modify the return address on the
> stack.
> 
> Retpoline *is* a ROP gadget.  It really does modify the return address
> on the stack, even if its purpose is defensive (vs Spectre v2) rather
> than malicious.

Aah. I get that, yes.

Kernel is full of retpoline but I presume that ring-0 does not use CET.

The situation with callback is follows: for a run-time the user_handler
by all practical means is always the same. There is ever only one user
handler that gets executed. I.e. the indirect callback will always lead
to the same thing. I wonder how much assets an adversary would get if
we just remove retpoline bits (not much thinking done yet on that).

/Jarkko

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