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Date:   Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:01:59 -0500
From:   Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
To:     Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@...com>
Cc:     Gustavo Pimentel <Gustavo.Pimentel@...opsys.com>,
        "Z.q. Hou" <zhiqiang.hou@....com>,
        Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        Michael Walle <michael@...le.cc>,
        Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: dwc: Added link up check in map_bus of dw_child_pcie_ops

On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 8:22 AM Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@...com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 29/09/20 10:41 pm, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:24 AM Gustavo Pimentel
> > <Gustavo.Pimentel@...opsys.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 5:5:41, Z.q. Hou <zhiqiang.hou@....com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Lorenzo,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks a lot for your comments!
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>
> >>>> Sent: 2020年9月28日 17:39
> >>>> To: Z.q. Hou <zhiqiang.hou@....com>
> >>>> Cc: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; PCI
> >>>> <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>; Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>;
> >>>> Gustavo Pimentel <gustavo.pimentel@...opsys.com>; Michael Walle
> >>>> <michael@...le.cc>; Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: dwc: Added link up check in map_bus of
> >>>> dw_child_pcie_ops
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 04:24:47AM +0000, Z.q. Hou wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Rob,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks a lot for your comments!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
> >>>>>> Sent: 2020年9月18日 23:28
> >>>>>> To: Z.q. Hou <zhiqiang.hou@....com>
> >>>>>> Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; PCI <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>;
> >>>>>> Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>; Bjorn Helgaas
> >>>>>> <bhelgaas@...gle.com>; Gustavo Pimentel
> >>>>>> <gustavo.pimentel@...opsys.com>; Michael Walle
> >>>> <michael@...le.cc>;
> >>>>>> Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: dwc: Added link up check in map_bus of
> >>>>>> dw_child_pcie_ops
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:02 AM Z.q. Hou <zhiqiang.hou@....com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Rob,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your comments!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: 2020年9月17日 4:29
> >>>>>>>> To: Z.q. Hou <zhiqiang.hou@....com>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org; PCI
> >>>>>>>> <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>; Lorenzo Pieralisi
> >>>>>>>> <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>; Bjorn Helgaas
> >>>>>>>> <bhelgaas@...gle.com>; Gustavo Pimentel
> >>>>>>>> <gustavo.pimentel@...opsys.com>; Michael Walle
> >>>>>> <michael@...le.cc>;
> >>>>>>>> Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: dwc: Added link up check in map_bus of
> >>>>>>>> dw_child_pcie_ops
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:49 PM Zhiqiang Hou
> >>>>>> <Zhiqiang.Hou@....com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> From: Hou Zhiqiang <Zhiqiang.Hou@....com>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On NXP Layerscape platforms, it results in SError in the
> >>>>>>>>> enumeration of the PCIe controller, which is not connecting
> >>>>>>>>> with an Endpoint device. And it doesn't make sense to
> >>>>>>>>> enumerate the Endpoints when the PCIe link is down. So this
> >>>>>>>>> patch added the link up check to avoid to fire configuration
> >>>> transactions on link down bus.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Michael reported the same issue as well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What happens if the link goes down between the check and the
> >>>> access?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This patch cannot cover this case, and will get the SError.
> >>>>>>> But I think it makes sense to avoid firing transactions on link down bus.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's impossible to do without a race even in h/w.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Agree.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It's a racy check. I'd like to find an alternative solution.
> >>>>>>>> It's even worse if Layerscape is used in ECAM mode. I looked at
> >>>>>>>> the EDK2 setup for layerscape[1] and it looks like root ports
> >>>>>>>> are just skipped if link
> >>>>>> is down.
> >>>>>>>> Maybe a link down just never happens once up, but if so, then we
> >>>>>>>> only need to check it once and fail probe.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Many customers connect the FPGA Endpoint, which may establish PCIe
> >>>>>>> link after the PCIe enumeration and then rescan the PCIe bus, so I
> >>>>>>> think it should not exit the probe of root port even if there is
> >>>>>>> not link up
> >>>>>> during enumeration.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's a good reason. I want to unify the behavior here as it varies
> >>>>>> per platform currently and wasn't sure which way to go.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I've dug into this a bit more and am curious about the
> >>>>>>>> PCIE_ABSERR register setting which is set to:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> #define PCIE_ABSERR_SETTING 0x9401 /* Forward error of
> >>>>>>>> non-posted request */
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It seems to me this is not what we want at least for config
> >>>>>>>> accesses, but commit 84d897d6993 where this was added seems to
> >>>>>>>> say otherwise. Is it not possible to configure the response per access
> >>>> type?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your investigation!
> >>>>>>> The story is like this: Some customers worry about these silent
> >>>>>>> error (DWC PCIe IP won't forward the error of outbound non-post
> >>>>>>> request by default), so we were pushed to enable the error
> >>>>>>> forwarding to AXI in the commit
> >>>>>>> 84d897d6993 as you saw. But it cannot differentiate the config
> >>>>>>> transactions from the MEM_rd, except the Vendor ID access, which
> >>>>>>> is controlled by a separate bit and it was set to not forward
> >>>>>>> error of access
> >>>>>> of Vendor ID.
> >>>>>>> So we think it's okay to enable the error forwarding, the SError
> >>>>>>> should not occur, because after the enumeration it won't access
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>> non-existent functions.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We've rejected upstream support for platforms aborting on config
> >>>>>> accesses[1]. I think there's clear consensus that aborting is the
> >>>>>> wrong behavior.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Do MEM_wr errors get forwarded? Seems like that would be enough.
> >>>>>> Also, wouldn't page faults catch most OOB accesses anyways? You need
> >>>>>> things page aligned anyways with an IOMMU and doing userspace access
> >>>>>> or guest assignment.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yes, errors of MEM_wr can be forwarded.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Here's another idea, how about only enabling forwarding errors if
> >>>>>> the link is up? If really would need to be configured any time the
> >>>>>> link state changes rather than just at probe. I'm not sure if you
> >>>>>> have a way to disable it on link down though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dug deeper into this issue and found the setting of not forwarding
> >>>>> error of non-existent Vender ID access counts on the link partner: 1.
> >>>>> When there is a link partner (namely link up), it will return 0xffff
> >>>>> when read non-existent function Vendor ID and won't forward error to
> >>>>> AXI.  2. When no link partner (link down), it will forward the error
> >>>>> of reading non-existent function Vendor ID to AXI and result in
> >>>>> SError.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think this is a DWC PCIe IP specific issue but not get feedback from
> >>>>> design team.  I'm thinking to disable this error forwarding just like
> >>>>> other platforms, since when these errors (UR, CA and CT) are detected,
> >>>>> AER driver can also report the error and try to recover.
> >>>>
> >>>> I take this as you shall send a patch to fix this issue shortly, is this correct ?
> >>>
> >>> The issue becomes complex:
> >>> I reviewed the DWC PCIe databook of verion 4.40a which is used on Layerscape platforms, and it said that " Your RC application should not generate CFG requests until it has confirmed that the link is up by sampling the smlh_link_up and rmlh_link_up outputs".
> >>> So, the link up checking should not be remove before each outbound CFG access.
> >>> Gustavo, can you share more details on the link up checking? Does it only exist in the 4.40a?
> >>
> >> Hi Zhiqiang,
> >>
> >> According to the information that I got from the IP team you are correct,
> >> the same requirement still exists on the newer IP versions.
> >
> > How is that possible in a race free way?
> >
> > Testing on meson and layerscape (with the forwarding of errors
> > disabled) shows a link check is not needed. But then dra7xx seems to
> > need one (or has some f/w setup).
>
> Yeah, I don't see any registers in the DRA7x PCIe wrapper for disabling
> error forwarding.

It's a DWC port logic register AFAICT, but perhaps not present in all versions.

Rob

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