Date:   Thu, 1 Oct 2020 12:56:31 -0600
From:   Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.pizza>
To:     Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>
Cc:     Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@...onical.com>,
        linux-man <linux-man@...r.kernel.org>,
        Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>,
        Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@...hat.com>,
        Robert Sesek <rsesek@...gle.com>,
        Linux Containers <containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
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        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
        bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        Christian Brauner <christian@...uner.io>
Subject: Re: For review: seccomp_user_notif(2) manual page

On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 08:18:49PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 6:58 PM Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.pizza> wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 01, 2020 at 05:47:54PM +0200, Jann Horn via Containers wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 2:54 PM Christian Brauner
> > > <christian.brauner@...onical.com> wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 05:53:46PM +0200, Jann Horn via Containers wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 1:07 PM Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> > > > > <mtk.manpages@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > > NOTES
> > > > > >        The file descriptor returned when seccomp(2) is employed with the
> > > > > >        SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_NEW_LISTENER  flag  can  be  monitored  using
> > > > > >        poll(2), epoll(7), and select(2).  When a notification  is  pend‐
> > > > > >        ing,  these interfaces indicate that the file descriptor is read‐
> > > > > >        able.
> > > > >
> > > > > We should probably also point out somewhere that, as
> > > > > include/uapi/linux/seccomp.h says:
> > > > >
> > > > >  * Similar precautions should be applied when stacking SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF
> > > > >  * or SECCOMP_RET_TRACE. For SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF filters acting on the
> > > > >  * same syscall, the most recently added filter takes precedence. This means
> > > > >  * that the new SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF filter can override any
> > > > >  * SECCOMP_IOCTL_NOTIF_SEND from earlier filters, essentially allowing all
> > > > >  * such filtered syscalls to be executed by sending the response
> > > > >  * SECCOMP_USER_NOTIF_FLAG_CONTINUE. Note that SECCOMP_RET_TRACE can equally
> > > > >  * be overriden by SECCOMP_USER_NOTIF_FLAG_CONTINUE.
> > > > >
> > > > > In other words, from a security perspective, you must assume that the
> > > > > target process can bypass any SECCOMP_RET_USER_NOTIF (or
> > > > > SECCOMP_RET_TRACE) filters unless it is completely prohibited from
> > > > > calling seccomp(). This should also be noted over in the main
> > > > > seccomp(2) manpage, especially the SECCOMP_RET_TRACE part.
> > > >
> > > > So I was actually wondering about this when I skimmed this and a while
> > > > ago but forgot about this again... Afaict, you can only ever load a
> > > > single filter with SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_NEW_LISTENER set. If there
> > > > already is a filter with the SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_NEW_LISTENER property
> > > > in the tasks filter hierarchy then the kernel will refuse to load a new
> > > > one?
> > > >
> > > > static struct file *init_listener(struct seccomp_filter *filter)
> > > > {
> > > >         struct file *ret = ERR_PTR(-EBUSY);
> > > >         struct seccomp_filter *cur;
> > > >
> > > >         for (cur = current->seccomp.filter; cur; cur = cur->prev) {
> > > >                 if (cur->notif)
> > > >                         goto out;
> > > >         }
> > > >
> > > > shouldn't that be sufficient to guarantee that USER_NOTIF filters can't
> > > > override each other for the same task simply because there can only ever
> > > > be a single one?
> > >
> > > Good point. Exceeeept that that check seems ineffective because this
> > > happens before we take the locks that guard against TSYNC, and also
> > > before we decide to which existing filter we want to chain the new
> > > filter. So if two threads race with TSYNC, I think they'll be able to
> > > chain two filters with listeners together.
> >
> > Yep, seems the check needs to also be in seccomp_can_sync_threads() to
> > be totally effective,
> >
> > > I don't know whether we want to eternalize this "only one listener
> > > across all the filters" restriction in the manpage though, or whether
> > > the man page should just say that the kernel currently doesn't support
> > > it but that security-wise you should assume that it might at some
> > > point.
> >
> > This requirement originally came from Andy, arguing that the semantics
> > of this were/are confusing, which still makes sense to me. Perhaps we
> > should do something like the below?
> [...]
> > +static bool has_listener_parent(struct seccomp_filter *child)
> > +{
> > +       struct seccomp_filter *cur;
> > +
> > +       for (cur = current->seccomp.filter; cur; cur = cur->prev) {
> > +               if (cur->notif)
> > +                       return true;
> > +       }
> > +
> > +       return false;
> > +}
> [...]
> > @@ -407,6 +419,11 @@ static inline pid_t seccomp_can_sync_threads(void)
> [...]
> > +               /* don't allow TSYNC to install multiple listeners */
> > +               if (flags & SECCOMP_FILTER_FLAG_NEW_LISTENER &&
> > +                   !has_listener_parent(thread->seccomp.filter))
> > +                       continue;
> [...]
> > @@ -1462,12 +1479,9 @@ static const struct file_operations seccomp_notify_ops = {
> >  static struct file *init_listener(struct seccomp_filter *filter)
> [...]
> > -       for (cur = current->seccomp.filter; cur; cur = cur->prev) {
> > -               if (cur->notif)
> > -                       goto out;
> > -       }
> > +       if (has_listener_parent(current->seccomp.filter))
> > +               goto out;
> 
> I dislike this because it combines a non-locked check and a locked
> check. And I don't think this will work in the case where TSYNC and
> non-TSYNC race - if the non-TSYNC call nests around the TSYNC filter
> installation, the thread that called seccomp in non-TSYNC mode will
> still end up with two notifying filters. How about the following?

Sure, you can add,

Reviewed-by: Tycho Andersen <tycho@...ho.pizza>

when you send it.

Tycho

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