Date:   Fri, 2 Oct 2020 19:09:36 +0000
From:   "Van Leeuwen, Pascal" <pvanleeuwen@...bus.com>
To:     "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>
CC:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
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Subject: RE: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST
 SP800-90B compliance

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theodore Y. Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
> Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 8:14 PM
> To: Van Leeuwen, Pascal <pvanleeuwen@...bus.com>
> Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>; Torsten Duwe <duwe@....de>; linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org; Nicolai Stange
> <nstange@...e.de>; LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>; Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>; Eric W. Biederman
> <ebiederm@...ssion.com>; Alexander E. Patrakov <patrakov@...il.com>; Ahmed S. Darwish <darwish.07@...il.com>; Willy
> Tarreau <w@....eu>; Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>; Vito Caputo <vcaputo@...garu.com>; Andreas Dilger
> <adilger.kernel@...ger.ca>; Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>; Ray Strode <rstrode@...hat.com>; William Jon McCann <mccann@....edu>;
> zhangjs <zachary@...shancloud.com>; Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>; Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>; Lennart
> Poettering <mzxreary@...inter.de>; Peter Matthias <matthias.peter@....bund.de>; Marcelo Henrique Cerri
> <marcelo.cerri@...onical.com>; Neil Horman <nhorman@...hat.com>; Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>; Julia Lawall
> <julia.lawall@...ia.fr>; Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@...cle.com>; Andy Lavr <andy.lavr@...il.com>; Eric Biggers
> <ebiggers@...nel.org>; Jason A. Donenfeld <Jason@...c4.com>; Stephan Müller <smueller@...onox.de>; Petr Tesarik
> <ptesarik@...e.cz>
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSSION PATCH 00/41] random: possible ways towards NIST SP800-90B compliance
>
> <<< External Email >>>
> On Fri, Oct 02, 2020 at 03:39:35PM +0000, Van Leeuwen, Pascal wrote:
> > > Then your company can not contribute in Linux kernel development, as
> > > this is obviously not allowed by such a footer.
> > >
> > Interesting, this has never been raised as a problem until today ...
> > Going back through my mail archive, it looks like they started automatically adding that some
> > 3 months ago. Not that they informed anyone about that, it just silently happened.
>
> So use a private e-mail address (e.g., at fastmail.fm if you don't
> want to run your mail server) and then tunnel out SMTP requests using
> ssh.  It's not hard.  :-)
>
Actually, for the last patches I sent I already had to tunnel them over some 3rd
party SMTP-over-HTTPS service because of our firewall blocking access to
the Gmail SMTP server I previously used for that :-(

I guess tunnelling over SSH is another option, although I have no idea how to
do such a thing (didn't know it was possible). At the end of the day, I am not
a software guy, so I'm not _that_ much into these kinds of things ...

That doesn't work for _regular_ mail, though, as I would not be able to setup
a mail client for that. I can't install anything and I can't even touch the settings
of my Outlook client :-(

For incoming mail I'm actually bulk forwarding the mailing list through my
Gmail account now because our mail server stopped accepting it directly.
WIth POP3 and IMAP being blocked, I still need to find some way to receive
patches without our Exchange server fubarring them though (tips are welcome!).
Right now the only solution I have is fetch them from my home PC and take
them to work on a USB stick. Welcome to 2020 ...

> I've worked a multiple $BIG_COMPANY's, and I've been doing this for
> decades.  It's also helpful when I need to send e-mails from
> conference networks from my laptop....
>
>

Regards,
Pascal van Leeuwen
Silicon IP Architect Multi-Protocol Engines, Rambus Security
Rambus ROTW Holding BV
+31-73 6581953

Note: The Inside Secure/Verimatrix Silicon IP team was recently acquired by Rambus.
Please be so kind to update your e-mail address book with my new e-mail address.
- Ted


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