linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL

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Message-ID: <CAKMK7uFSTrULTE-o+vHU-81dJpKJ5cHAAb8qkpQtcz6KrhvPzg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Wed, 7 Oct 2020 16:08:54 +0200
From:   Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...ll.ch>
To:     Tomasz Figa <tfiga@...omium.org>
Cc:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        DRI Development <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...el.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>,
        Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>,
        Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Linux MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Pawel Osciak <pawel@...iak.com>,
        Kyungmin Park <kyungmin.park@...sung.com>,
        Inki Dae <inki.dae@...sung.com>,
        Joonyoung Shim <jy0922.shim@...sung.com>,
        Seung-Woo Kim <sw0312.kim@...sung.com>,
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        <linux-media@...r.kernel.org>, Oded Gabbay <oded.gabbay@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm/frame-vec: use FOLL_LONGTERM

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:34 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@...omium.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:06 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:58:33PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:48 PM Tomasz Figa <tfiga@...omium.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 07, 2020 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > > > > > Well, it was in vb2_get_vma() function, but now I see that it has been
> > > > > > lost in fb639eb39154 and 6690c8c78c74 some time ago...
> > > > >
> > > > > There is no guarentee that holding a get on the file says anthing
> > > > > about the VMA. This needed to check that the file was some special
> > > > > kind of file that promised the VMA layout and file lifetime are
> > > > > connected.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, cloning a VMA outside the mm world is just really bad. That
> > > > > would screw up many assumptions the drivers make.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it is all obsolete I say we hide it behind a default n config
> > > > > symbol and taint the kernel if anything uses it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Add a big comment above the follow_pfn to warn others away from this
> > > > > code.
> > > >
> > > > Sadly it's just verbally declared as deprecated and not formally noted
> > > > anyway. There are a lot of userspace applications relying on user
> > > > pointer support.
> > >
> > > userptr can stay, it's the userptr abuse for zerocpy buffer sharing
> > > which doesn't work anymore. At least without major surgery (you'd need
> > > an mmu notifier to zap mappings and recreate them, and that pretty
> > > much breaks the v4l model of preallocating all buffers to make sure we
> > > never underflow the buffer queue). And static mappings are not coming
> > > back I think, we'll go ever more into the direction of dynamic
> > > mappings and moving stuff around as needed.
> >
> > Right, and to be clear, the last time I saw a security flaw of this
> > magnitude from a subsystem badly mis-designing itself, Linus's
> > knee-jerk reaction was to propose to remove the whole subsystem.
> >
> > Please don't take status-quo as acceptable, V4L community has to work
> > to resolve this, uABI breakage or not. The follow_pfn related code
> > must be compiled out of normal distro kernel builds.
>
> I think the userptr zero-copy hack should be able to go away indeed,
> given that we now have CMA that allows having carveouts backed by
> struct pages and having the memory represented as DMA-buf normally.

Not sure whether there's a confusion here: dma-buf supports memory not
backed by struct page.

> How about the regular userptr use case, though?
>
> The existing code resolves the user pointer into pages by following
> the get_vaddr_frames() -> frame_vector_to_pages() ->
> sg_alloc_table_from_pages() / vm_map_ram() approach.
> get_vaddr_frames() seems to use pin_user_pages() behind the scenes if
> the vma is not an IO or a PFNMAP, falling back to follow_pfn()
> otherwise.

Yeah pin_user_pages is fine, it's just the VM_IO | VM_PFNMAP vma that
don't work.
>
> Is your intention to drop get_vaddr_frames() or we could still keep
> using it and if vec->is_pfns is true:
> a) if CONFIG_VIDEO_LEGACY_PFN_USERPTR is set, taint the kernel
> b) otherwise just undo and fail?

I'm typing that patch series (plus a pile more) right now.
-Daniel
-- 
Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch