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Message-ID: <CAJZ5v0iFj0s=ZNrLnBxQ34uUnn2NQ6bH+oriyNWrFu-g8HGfUg@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 12 Oct 2020 12:55:32 +0200
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Alexander Monakov <amonakov@...ras.ru>
Cc:     Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] intel_idle: mention assumption that wbinvd is not needed

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 1:13 AM Alexander Monakov <amonakov@...ras.ru> wrote:
>
> Intel SDM does not explicitly say that entering a C-state via MWAIT will
> implicitly flush CPU caches as appropriate for that C-state. However,
> documentation for individual Intel CPU generations does mention this
> behavior.
>
> Since intel_idle binds to any Intel CPU with MWAIT, mention this
> assumption on MWAIT behavior. In passing, reword opening comment
> to make it clear that driver can load on any future Intel CPU with MWAIT.
>
> Signed-off-by: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@...ras.ru>
> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
> ---
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that one of significant optimizations of intel_idle over
> acpi_idle is elision of explicit wbinvd: ACPI requires the OS to flush
> caches when entering C3, and Linux issues an explicit wbinvd to do that,
> but intel_idle simply issues mwait with the expectation that the CPU
> will automatically flush caches if needed.
>
> To me this is a fairly subtle point that became even more subtle
> following the update to intel_idle that made it capable to bind to old
> and future Intel CPUs with MWAIT (by the way, thanks for that!)
>
> Can you take this patch to spell out the assumption?
>
>  drivers/idle/intel_idle.c | 8 ++++++--
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/drivers/idle/intel_idle.c b/drivers/idle/intel_idle.c
> index f4495841bf68..1e5666cf8763 100644
> --- a/drivers/idle/intel_idle.c
> +++ b/drivers/idle/intel_idle.c
> @@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
>   */
>
>  /*
> - * intel_idle is a cpuidle driver that loads on specific Intel processors
> + * intel_idle is a cpuidle driver that loads on all Intel CPUs with MWAIT
>   * in lieu of the legacy ACPI processor_idle driver.  The intent is to
>   * make Linux more efficient on these processors, as intel_idle knows
>   * more than ACPI, as well as make Linux more immune to ACPI BIOS bugs.
> @@ -20,7 +20,11 @@
>   * All CPUs have same idle states as boot CPU
>   *
>   * Chipset BM_STS (bus master status) bit is a NOP
> - *     for preventing entry into deep C-stats
> + *     for preventing entry into deep C-states
> + *
> + * CPU will flush caches as needed when entering a C-state via MWAIT

I would rephrase this to mention that the above actually is an assumption.

> + *     (in contrast to entering ACPI C3, where acpi_idle driver is

And mentioning acpi_idle here is not needed; it would be sufficient to
say something like "in which case the WBINVD instruction needs to be
executed to flush the caches".

> + *     itself responsible for flushing, via WBINVD)
>   */
>
>  /*
> --

Thanks!

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