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Date:   Fri, 16 Oct 2020 08:54:56 +0200
From:   Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
To:     Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@...wei.com>
Cc:     Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Nicolas Saenz Julienne <nsaenzjulienne@...e.de>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 7/8] arm64: mm: Set ZONE_DMA size based on early IORT scan

On Fri, 16 Oct 2020 at 08:51, Hanjun Guo <guohanjun@...wei.com> wrote:
>
> On 2020/10/16 2:03, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 10:26:18PM +0800, Hanjun Guo wrote:
> >> On 2020/10/15 3:12, Nicolas Saenz Julienne wrote:
> >>> From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@...nel.org>
> >>>
> >>> We recently introduced a 1 GB sized ZONE_DMA to cater for platforms
> >>> incorporating masters that can address less than 32 bits of DMA, in
> >>> particular the Raspberry Pi 4, which has 4 or 8 GB of DRAM, but has
> >>> peripherals that can only address up to 1 GB (and its PCIe host
> >>> bridge can only access the bottom 3 GB)
> >>>
> >>> Instructing the DMA layer about these limitations is straight-forward,
> >>> even though we had to fix some issues regarding memory limits set in
> >>> the IORT for named components, and regarding the handling of ACPI _DMA
> >>> methods. However, the DMA layer also needs to be able to allocate
> >>> memory that is guaranteed to meet those DMA constraints, for bounce
> >>> buffering as well as allocating the backing for consistent mappings.
> >>>
> >>> This is why the 1 GB ZONE_DMA was introduced recently. Unfortunately,
> >>> it turns out the having a 1 GB ZONE_DMA as well as a ZONE_DMA32 causes
> >>> problems with kdump, and potentially in other places where allocations
> >>> cannot cross zone boundaries. Therefore, we should avoid having two
> >>> separate DMA zones when possible.
> >>>
> >>> So let's do an early scan of the IORT, and only create the ZONE_DMA
> >>> if we encounter any devices that need it. This puts the burden on
> >>> the firmware to describe such limitations in the IORT, which may be
> >>> redundant (and less precise) if _DMA methods are also being provided.
> >>> However, it should be noted that this situation is highly unusual for
> >>> arm64 ACPI machines. Also, the DMA subsystem still gives precedence to
> >>> the _DMA method if implemented, and so we will not lose the ability to
> >>> perform streaming DMA outside the ZONE_DMA if the _DMA method permits
> >>> it.
> >>
> >> Sorry, I'm still a little bit confused. With this patch, if we have
> >> a device which set the right _DMA method (DMA size >= 32), but with the
> >> wrong DMA size in IORT, we still have the ZONE_DMA created which
> >> is actually not needed?
> >
> > With the current kernel, we get a ZONE_DMA already with an arbitrary
> > size of 1GB that matches what RPi4 needs. We are trying to eliminate
> > such unnecessary ZONE_DMA based on some heuristics (well, something that
> > looks "better" than a OEM ID based quirk). Now, if we learn that IORT
> > for platforms in the field is that broken as to describe few bits-wide
> > DMA masks, we may have to go back to the OEM ID quirk.
>
> Some platforms using 0 as the memory size limit, for example D05 [0] and
> D06 [1], I think we need to go back to the OEM ID quirk.
>
> For D05/D06, there are multi interrupt controllers named as mbigen,
> mbigen is using the named component to describe the mappings with
> the ITS controller, and mbigen is using 0 as the memory size limit.
>
> Also since the memory size limit for PCI RC was introduced by later
> IORT revision, so firmware people may think it's fine to set that
> as 0 because the system works without it.
>

Hello Hanjun,

The patch only takes the address limit field into account if its value > 0.

Also, before commit 7fb89e1d44cb6aec ("ACPI/IORT: take _DMA methods
into account for named components"), the _DMA method was not taken
into account for named components at all, and only the IORT limit was
used, so I do not anticipate any problems with that.

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