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Date:   Mon, 19 Oct 2020 11:04:40 +0200
From:   David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>
To:     Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@...ux.alibaba.com>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "Michael S . Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>,
        Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>,
        Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta.linux@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 09/29] virtio-mem: don't always trigger the workqueue
 when offlining memory

On 18.10.20 05:57, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 11:18:39AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> On 16.10.20 06:03, Wei Yang wrote:
>>> On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 02:53:03PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> Let's trigger from offlining code when we're not allowed to touch online
> 
> Here "touch" means "unplug"? If so, maybe s/touch/unplug/ would be more easy
> to understand.

Yes, much better.

[...]

> I am trying to get more understanding about the logic of virtio_mem_retry().
> 
> Current logic seems clear to me. There are four places to trigger it:
> 
>     * notify_offline
>     * notify_online
>     * timer_expired
>     * config_changed
> 
> In this patch, we try to optimize the first case, notify_offline.

Yes.

> 
> Now, we would always trigger retry when one of our memory block get offlined.
> Per my understanding, this logic is correct while missed one case (or be more
> precise, not handle one case timely). The case this patch wants to improve is
> virtio_mem_mb_remove(). If my understanding is correct.
> 

Yes, that's one part of it. Read below.

>    virtio_mem_run_wq()
>        virtio_mem_unplug_request()
>            virtio_mem_mb_unplug_any_sb_offline()
>  	      virtio_mem_mb_remove()             --- 1
>            virtio_mem_mb_unplug_any_sb_online()
>               virtio_mem_mb_offline_and_remove() --- 2
> 
> The above is two functions this patch adjusts. For 2), it will offline the
> memory block, thus will trigger virtio_mem_retry() originally. But for 1), the
> memory block is already offlined, so virtio_mem_retry() will not be triggered
> originally. This is the case we want to improve in this patch. Instead of wait
> for timer expire, we trigger retry immediately after unplug/remove an offlined
> memory block.
> 
> And after this change, this patch still adjust the original
> virtio_mem_notify_offline() path to just trigger virtio_mem_retry() when
> unplug_online is false. (This means the offline event is notified from user
> space instead of from unplug event).
> 
> If my above analysis is correct, I got one small suggestion for this patch.
> Instead of adjust current notify_offline handling, how about just trigger
> retry during virtio_mem_mb_remove()? Since per my understanding, we just want
> to do immediate trigger retry when unplug an offlined memory block.

I probably should have added the following to the patch description:

"This is a preparation for Big Block Mode (BBM), whereby we can see some
temporary offlining of memory blocks without actually making progress"

Imagine you have a Big Block that spans to Linux memory blocks. Assume
the first Linux memory blocks has no unmovable data on it.

Assume you call offline_and_remove_memory()

1. Try to offline the first block. Works, notifiers triggered.
virtio_mem_retry().
2. Try to offline the second block. Does not work.
3. Re-online first block.
4. Exit to main loop, exit workqueue.
5. Retry immediately (due to virtio_mem_retry()), go to 1.

So, you'll keep retrying forever. Found while debugging that exact issue :)


-- 
Thanks,

David / dhildenb

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