linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] thermal: cpufreq_cooling: Reuse effective_cpu

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Message-ID: <20201022115752.GF2611@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
Date:   Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:57:52 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Cc:     Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>,
        Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        Amit Daniel Kachhap <amit.kachhap@...il.com>,
        Javi Merino <javi.merino@...nel.org>,
        Amit Kucheria <amit.kucheria@...durent.com>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Quentin Perret <qperret@...gle.com>,
        Rafael Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] thermal: cpufreq_cooling: Reuse effective_cpu_util()

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 01:30:01PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:

> Many people use intel_pstate in the active mode with HWP enabled too.

We now have HWP-passive supported, afaict. So we should discourage that.

That is; I'll care less and less about people not using schedutil as
time goes on.

> Arguably, that doesn't need to compute the effective utilization, so I
> guess it is not relevant for the discussion here, but it is not
> negligible in general.

Why not? cpufreq-cooling should still be able to throttle the system by
setting HWP.Highest_Performance no?

In which case it still needs an energy estimate.