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Message-ID: <CACT4Y+bVCADgzweb_gmC9f7m_uc5r73scLPy+D3=Tbf2DFqb6g@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:15:55 +0200
From:   Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@...gle.com>
To:     Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com>
Cc:     Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@....com>,
        Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>,
        Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@....com>,
        Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>,
        Marco Elver <elver@...gle.com>,
        Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@...gle.com>,
        Kostya Serebryany <kcc@...gle.com>,
        Peter Collingbourne <pcc@...gle.com>,
        Serban Constantinescu <serbanc@...gle.com>,
        Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
        Elena Petrova <lenaptr@...gle.com>,
        Branislav Rankov <Branislav.Rankov@....com>,
        Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@....com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        kasan-dev <kasan-dev@...glegroups.com>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 00/21] kasan: hardware tag-based mode for
 production use on arm64

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 3:19 PM Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@...gle.com> wrote:
>
> This patchset is not complete (hence sending as RFC), but I would like to
> start the discussion now and hear people's opinions regarding the
> questions mentioned below.
>
> === Overview
>
> This patchset adopts the existing hardware tag-based KASAN mode [1] for
> use in production as a memory corruption mitigation. Hardware tag-based
> KASAN relies on arm64 Memory Tagging Extension (MTE) [2] to perform memory
> and pointer tagging. Please see [3] and [4] for detailed analysis of how
> MTE helps to fight memory safety problems.
>
> The current plan is reuse CONFIG_KASAN_HW_TAGS for production, but add a
> boot time switch, that allows to choose between a debugging mode, that
> includes all KASAN features as they are, and a production mode, that only
> includes the essentials like tag checking.
>
> It is essential that switching between these modes doesn't require
> rebuilding the kernel with different configs, as this is required by the
> Android GKI initiative [5].
>
> The patch titled "kasan: add and integrate kasan boot parameters" of this
> series adds a few new boot parameters:
>
> kasan.mode allows choosing one of main three modes:
>
> - kasan.mode=off - no checks at all
> - kasan.mode=prod - only essential production features
> - kasan.mode=full - all features
>
> Those mode configs provide default values for three more internal configs
> listed below. However it's also possible to override the default values
> by providing:
>
> - kasan.stack=off/on - enable stacks collection
>                        (default: on for mode=full, otherwise off)
> - kasan.trap=async/sync - use async or sync MTE mode
>                           (default: sync for mode=full, otherwise async)
> - kasan.fault=report/panic - only report MTE fault or also panic
>                              (default: report)
>
> === Benchmarks
>
> For now I've only performed a few simple benchmarks such as measuring
> kernel boot time and slab memory usage after boot. The benchmarks were
> performed in QEMU and the results below exclude the slowdown caused by
> QEMU memory tagging emulation (as it's different from the slowdown that
> will be introduced by hardware and therefore irrelevant).
>
> KASAN_HW_TAGS=y + kasan.mode=off introduces no performance or memory
> impact compared to KASAN_HW_TAGS=n.
>
> kasan.mode=prod (without executing the tagging instructions) introduces
> 7% of both performace and memory impact compared to kasan.mode=off.
> Note, that 4% of performance and all 7% of memory impact are caused by the
> fact that enabling KASAN essentially results in CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT
> being disabled.
>
> Recommended Android config has CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT disabled (I assume
> for security reasons), but Pixel 4 has it enabled. It's arguable, whether
> "disabling" CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT introduces any security benefit on
> top of MTE. Without MTE it makes exploiting some heap corruption harder.
> With MTE it will only make it harder provided that the attacker is able to
> predict allocation tags.
>
> kasan.mode=full has 40% performance and 30% memory impact over
> kasan.mode=prod. Both come from alloc/free stack collection.
>
> === Questions
>
> Any concerns about the boot parameters?

For boot parameters I think we are now "safe" in the sense that we
provide maximum possible flexibility and can defer any actual
decisions.

> Should we try to deal with CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT-like behavor mentioned
> above?

How hard it is to allow KASAN with CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT? Are
there any principal conflicts?
The numbers you provided look quite substantial (on a par of what MTE
itself may introduce). So I would assume if a vendor does not have
CONFIG_SLAB_MERGE_DEFAULT disabled, it may not want to disable it
because of MTE (effectively doubles overhead).

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