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Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:21:45 -0700
From: Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@...el.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 4/4] PCI: Limit pci_alloc_irq_vectors() to housekeeping
CPUs
On 10/26/2020 12:00 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26 2020 at 14:30, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 11:00:52PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>> So without information from the driver which tells what the best number
>>> of interrupts is with a reduced number of CPUs, this cutoff will cause
>>> more problems than it solves. Regressions guaranteed.
>>
>> One might want to move from one interrupt per isolated app core
>> to zero, or vice versa. It seems that "best number of interrupts
>> is with reduced number of CPUs" information, is therefore in userspace,
>> not in driver...
>
> How does userspace know about the driver internals? Number of management
> interrupts, optimal number of interrupts per queue?
>
I guess this is the problem solved in part by the queue management work
that would make queues a thing that userspace is aware of.
Are there drivers which use more than one interrupt per queue? I know
drivers have multiple management interrupts.. and I guess some drivers
do combined 1 interrupt per pair of Tx/Rx.. It's also plausible to to
have multiple queues for one interrupt .. I'm not sure how a single
queue with multiple interrupts would work though.
>>> Managed interrupts base their interrupt allocation and spreading on
>>> information which is handed in by the individual driver and not on crude
>>> assumptions. They are not imposing restrictions on the use case.
>>>
>>> It's perfectly fine for isolated work to save a data set to disk after
>>> computation has finished and that just works with the per-cpu I/O queue
>>> which is otherwise completely silent.
>>
>> Userspace could only change the mask of interrupts which are not
>> triggered by requests from the local CPU (admin, error, mgmt, etc),
>> to avoid the vector exhaustion problem.
>>
>> However, there is no explicit way for userspace to know that, as far as
>> i know.
>>
>> 130: 34845 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554433-edge nvme0q1
>> 131: 0 27062 0 0 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554434-edge nvme0q2
>> 132: 0 0 24393 0 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554435-edge nvme0q3
>> 133: 0 0 0 24313 0 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554436-edge nvme0q4
>> 134: 0 0 0 0 20608 0 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554437-edge nvme0q5
>> 135: 0 0 0 0 0 22163 0 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554438-edge nvme0q6
>> 136: 0 0 0 0 0 0 23020 0 IR-PCI-MSI 33554439-edge nvme0q7
>> 137: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 24285 IR-PCI-MSI 33554440-edge nvme0q8
>>
>> Can that be retrieved from PCI-MSI information, or drivers
>> have to inform this?
>
> The driver should use a different name for the admin queues.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
>
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