linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 3/3] blk-mq: Use llist_head for blk_cpu

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Message-ID: <deb40e55-d228-06c8-8719-fc8657a0a19b@grimberg.me>
Date:   Thu, 29 Oct 2020 14:07:59 -0700
From:   Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>
To:     Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, linux-block@...r.kernel.org,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        David Runge <dave@...epmap.de>, linux-rt-users@...r.kernel.org,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Daniel Wagner <dwagner@...e.de>, Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] blk-mq: Use llist_head for blk_cpu_done


>>>>> Well, usb-storage obviously seems to do it, and the block layer
>>>>> does not prohibit it.
>>>>
>>>> Also loop, nvme-tcp and then I stopped looking.
>>>> Any objections about adding local_bh_disable() around it?
>>>
>>> To me it seems like the whole IPI plus potentially softirq dance is
>>> a little pointless when completing from process context.
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>>> Sagi, any opinion on that from the nvme-tcp POV?
>>
>> nvme-tcp should (almost) always complete from the context that matches
>> the rq->mq_ctx->cpu as the thread that processes incoming
>> completions (per hctx) should be affinitized to match it (unless cpus
>> come and go).
> 
> in which context?

Not sure what is the question.

> But this is probably nr_hw_queues > 1?

Yes.

>> So for nvme-tcp I don't expect blk_mq_complete_need_ipi to return true
>> in normal operation. That leaves the teardowns+aborts, which aren't very
>> interesting here.
> 
> The process context invocation is nvme_tcp_complete_timed_out().

Yes.

>> I would note that nvme-tcp does not go to sleep after completing every
>> I/O like how sebastian indicated usb does.
>>
>> Having said that, today the network stack is calling nvme_tcp_data_ready
>> in napi context (softirq) which in turn triggers the queue thread to
>> handle network rx (and complete the I/O). It's been measured recently
>> that running the rx context directly in softirq will save some
>> latency (possible because nvme-tcp rx context is non-blocking).
>>
>> So I'd think that patch #2 is unnecessary and just add overhead for
>> nvme-tcp.. do note that the napi softirq cpu mapping depends on the RSS
>> steering, which is unlikely to match rq->mq_ctx->cpu, hence if completed
>> from napi context, nvme-tcp will probably always go to the IPI path.
> 
> but running it in softirq on the remote CPU would still allow of other
> packets to come on the remote CPU (which would block BLOCK sofirq if
> NET_RX is already running).

Not sure I understand your comment, if napi triggers on core X and we
complete from that, it will trigger IPI to core Y, and there with patch 
#2 is will trigger softirq instead of calling ->complete directly no?