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Message-ID: <CAGETcx-i--K+1go-+126bBB85BG8kksgRr3j3hnCRfkt0vqBMA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 6 Nov 2020 11:12:43 -0800
From:   Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
To:     Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Matthias Brugger <matthias.bgg@...il.com>,
        Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@...il.com>,
        Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
        Cheng-Jui.Wang@...iatek.com,
        Android Kernel Team <kernel-team@...roid.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "moderated list:ARM/Mediatek SoC support" 
        <linux-mediatek@...ts.infradead.org>,
        clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@...glegroups.com>,
        Daniel Mentz <danielmentz@...gle.com>,
        linux-spi@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] spi: Populate fwnode in of_register_spi_device()

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 7:10 AM Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Nov 05, 2020 at 11:26:44AM -0800, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:12 AM Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> > > >       of_node_get(nc);
> > > >       spi->dev.of_node = nc;
> > > > +     spi->dev.fwnode = of_fwnode_handle(nc);
>
> > > Why is this a manual step in an individual subsystem rather than
> > > something done in the driver core
>
> > It can't be done in driver core because "fwnode" is the abstraction
> > driver core uses. It shouldn't care or know if the firmware is DT,
> > ACPI or something else -- that's the whole point of fwnode.
>
> Clearly it *can* be done in the driver core, the question is do we want
> to.  The abstraction thing feels weaker at init than use after init,
> "init from X" is a common enough pattern.  If it's done by the driver
> core there would be no possibility of anything that creates devices
> getting things wrong here, and the driver core already has a bunch of
> integration with both DT and ACPI so it seems like a weird boundary to
> have.
>
> > > and wouldn't that just be a case of
> > > checking to see if there is a fwnode already set and only initializing
> > > if not anyway?
>
> > Honestly, we should be deleting device.of_node and always use
> > device.fwnode. But that's a long way away (lots of clean up). The
> > "common" place to do this is where a struct device is created from a
> > firmware (device_node, acpi_device, etc). I don't see a "common place"
> > for when a device is created out of a device_node, so I think this
> > patch is a reasonable middle ground.
>
> That is obviously a much bigger job that's going to require going
> through subsystems (and their drivers) properly to eliminate references
> to of_node, I'm not clear how doing this little bit per subsystem rather
> than in the core helps or hinders going through and doing that.  I don't
> think you'll ever have a single place where a device is constructed, and
> I'm not sure that that is even desirable, since there are per subsystem
> things that need doing.
>
> I'd be totally happy with eliminating all references to of_node from the
> subsystem but for this it seems more sensible to do it in the driver
> core and cover everything rather than running around everything that
> creates a device from DT individually and having stuff fall through the
> cracks - it's been a year since the equivalent change was made in I2C
> for example, we've had new buses merged in that time never mind SPI not
> being covered.

Since you kicked off another thread while we were still discussing it
here, I'll just move to that thread. I don't want to discuss the same
thing in two different places.

> BTW I'm also missing patch 1 and the cover letter for this series, not
> sure what's going on there?

Sorry, scripting error. There is no series.

-Saravana

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