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Message-ID: <20201124032725.GB40007@kernel.org>
Date:   Tue, 24 Nov 2020 05:27:25 +0200
From:   Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@...nel.org>
To:     Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>
Cc:     Jerry Snitselaar <jsnitsel@...hat.com>,
        Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...gle.com>,
        linux-integrity <linux-integrity@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Peter Huewe <peterhuewe@....de>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>,
        James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] tpm_tis: Disable interrupts on ThinkPad T490s

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 03:42:35PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 11/19/20 7:36 AM, Jerry Snitselaar wrote:
> > 
> > Matthew Garrett @ 2020-10-15 15:39 MST:
> > 
> >> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 2:44 PM Jerry Snitselaar <jsnitsel@...hat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is a misconfiguration in the bios of the gpio pin used for the
> >>> interrupt in the T490s. When interrupts are enabled in the tpm_tis
> >>> driver code this results in an interrupt storm. This was initially
> >>> reported when we attempted to enable the interrupt code in the tpm_tis
> >>> driver, which previously wasn't setting a flag to enable it. Due to
> >>> the reports of the interrupt storm that code was reverted and we went back
> >>> to polling instead of using interrupts. Now that we know the T490s problem
> >>> is a firmware issue, add code to check if the system is a T490s and
> >>> disable interrupts if that is the case. This will allow us to enable
> >>> interrupts for everyone else. If the user has a fixed bios they can
> >>> force the enabling of interrupts with tpm_tis.interrupts=1 on the
> >>> kernel command line.
> >>
> >> I think an implication of this is that systems haven't been
> >> well-tested with interrupts enabled. In general when we've found a
> >> firmware issue in one place it ends up happening elsewhere as well, so
> >> it wouldn't surprise me if there are other machines that will also be
> >> unhappy with interrupts enabled. Would it be possible to automatically
> >> detect this case (eg, if we get more than a certain number of
> >> interrupts in a certain timeframe immediately after enabling the
> >> interrupt) and automatically fall back to polling in that case? It
> >> would also mean that users with fixed firmware wouldn't need to pass a
> >> parameter.
> > 
> > I believe Matthew is correct here. I found another system today
> > with completely different vendor for both the system and the tpm chip.
> > In addition another Lenovo model, the L490, has the issue.
> > 
> > This initial attempt at a solution like Matthew suggested works on
> > the system I found today, but I imagine it is all sorts of wrong.
> > In the 2 systems where I've seen it, there are about 100000 interrupts
> > in around 1.5 seconds, and then the irq code shuts down the interrupt
> > because they aren't being handled.
> 
> Is that with your patch? The IRQ should be silenced as soon as
> devm_free_irq(chip->dev.parent, priv->irq, chip); is called.
> 
> Depending on if we can get your storm-detection to work or not,
> we might also choose to just never try to use the IRQ (at least on
> x86 systems). AFAIK the TPM is never used for high-throughput stuff
> so the polling overhead should not be a big deal (and I'm getting the feeling
> that Windows always polls).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Hans

Yeah, this is what I've been wondering for a while. Why could not we
just strip off IRQ code? Why does it matter?

/Jarkko

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