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Date:   Tue, 1 Dec 2020 02:04:10 +0800
From:   Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@...onical.com>
To:     Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:     Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>,
        Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>, amitk@...nel.org,
        "open list:THERMAL" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] thermal: core: Add indication for userspace usage



> On Dec 1, 2020, at 00:19, Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 2020-11-30 at 16:23 +0800, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 15:57, Daniel Lezcano <
>>> daniel.lezcano@...aro.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [Added Srinivas]
>>> 
>>> On 28/11/2020 18:54, Kai-Heng Feng wrote:
>>>> We are seeing thermal shutdown on Intel based mobile
>>>> workstations, the
>>>> shutdown happens during the first trip handle in
>>>> thermal_zone_device_register():
>>>> kernel: thermal thermal_zone15: critical temperature reached (101
>>>> C), shutting down
>>>> 
>>>> However, we shouldn't do a thermal shutdown here, since
>>>> 1) We may want to use a dedicated daemon, Intel's thermald in
>>>> this case,
>>>> to handle thermal shutdown.
>>>> 
>>>> 2) For ACPI based system, _CRT doesn't mean shutdown unless it's
>>>> inside
>>>> ThermalZone. ACPI Spec, 11.4.4 _CRT (Critical Temperature):
>>>> "... If this object it present under a device, the device’s
>>>> driver
>>>> evaluates this object to determine the device’s critical cooling
>>>> temperature trip point. This value may then be used by the
>>>> device’s
>>>> driver to program an internal device temperature sensor trip
>>>> point."
>>>> 
>>>> So a "critical trip" here merely means we should take a more
>>>> aggressive
>>>> cooling method.
>>> 
>>> Well, actually it is stated before:
>>> 
>>> "This object, when defined under a thermal zone, returns the
>>> critical
>>> temperature at which OSPM must shutdown the system".
>> 
>> This means specifically for the ACPI ThermalZone in AML, e.g.:
>> 
>> ThermalZone (TZ0) {
>> ....
>>    Method(_CRT) { ... }
>> } // end of TZ0
>> 
>> However the device is not under any ACPI ThermalZone.
>> 
>>> That is what does the thermal subsystem, no ?
>>> 
>>>> So add an indication to let thermal core know it should leave
>>>> thermal
>>>> device to userspace to handle.
>>> 
>>> You may want to check the 'HOT' trip point and then use the
>>> notification
>>> mechanism to get notified in userspace and take action from there
>>> (eg.
>>> offline some CPUs).
>> 
>> For this particular issue we are facing, the thermal shutdown happens
>> in thermal_zone_device_register() and userspace isn't up yet.
> 
> What about creating an new callback
> 
> enum thermal_trip_status {
> 	THERMAL_TRIP_DISABLED = 0,
> 	THERMAL_TRIP_ENABLED,
> };
> 
> int get_trip_status(struct thermal_zone_device *, int trip, enum
> thermal_trip_status *state);
> 
> Then in 
> static void handle_thermal_trip(struct thermal_zone_device *tz, int
> trip)
> {
> 
> /* before tz->ops->get_trip_temp(tz, trip, &trip_temp); */
> if (tz->ops->get_trip_status) {
> 	enum thermal_trip_status *status;
> 
> 	if (!tz->ops->get_trip_status(tz, trip, &status)) {
> 		if (status == THERMAL_TRIP_DISABLED)
> 			return;	
> 	}
> }
> ...
> ...
> 
> }
> 
> 
> This callback will help the cases:
> - Allows drivers to selectively disable certain trips during init state
> or system resume where there can be spikes or always. int340x drivers
> can disable always.

This sounds really great. This is indeed can happen on system resume, before userspace process thaw.

> - Still give options for drivers to handle critical trip even if they
> are bound to user space governors. User space process may be dead, so
> still allow kernel to process graceful shutdown

To make the scenario happen, do we need a new sysfs to let usespace enable it with THERMAL_TRIP_ENABLED?

Kai-Heng

> 
> Thanks,
> Srinivas
> 
>> 
>> Kai-Heng
>> 
>>>> Signed-off-by: Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@...onical.com>
>>>> ---
>>>> drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c | 3 +++
>>>> include/linux/thermal.h        | 2 ++
>>>> 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>> 
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> index c6d74bc1c90b..6561e3767529 100644
>>>> --- a/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> +++ b/drivers/thermal/thermal_core.c
>>>> @@ -1477,6 +1477,9 @@ thermal_zone_device_register(const char
>>>> *type, int trips, int mask,
>>>> 			goto unregister;
>>>> 	}
>>>> 
>>>> +	if (tz->tzp && tz->tzp->userspace)
>>>> +		thermal_zone_device_disable(tz);
>>>> +
>>>> 	mutex_lock(&thermal_list_lock);
>>>> 	list_add_tail(&tz->node, &thermal_tz_list);
>>>> 	mutex_unlock(&thermal_list_lock);
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/thermal.h b/include/linux/thermal.h
>>>> index d07ea27e72a9..e8e8fac78fc8 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/thermal.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/thermal.h
>>>> @@ -247,6 +247,8 @@ struct thermal_zone_params {
>>>> 	 */
>>>> 	bool no_hwmon;
>>>> 
>>>> +	bool userspace;
>>>> +
>>>> 	int num_tbps;	/* Number of tbp entries */
>>>> 	struct thermal_bind_params *tbp;
>>>> 
>>>> 
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