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Date:   Mon, 30 Nov 2020 15:16:39 -0800
From:   "Yu, Yu-cheng" <yu-cheng.yu@...el.com>
To:     Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>, x86@...nel.org,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-doc@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-arch@...r.kernel.org, linux-api@...r.kernel.org,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Balbir Singh <bsingharora@...il.com>,
        Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
        Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
        Eugene Syromiatnikov <esyr@...hat.com>,
        Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>,
        "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@...il.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@...cle.com>,
        Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@...il.com>,
        Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
        "Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@...el.com>,
        Vedvyas Shanbhogue <vedvyas.shanbhogue@...el.com>,
        Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@....com>,
        Weijiang Yang <weijiang.yang@...el.com>,
        Pengfei Xu <pengfei.xu@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [NEEDS-REVIEW] [PATCH v15 03/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Introduce CET
 MSR XSAVES supervisor states

On 11/30/2020 9:45 AM, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 11/10/20 8:21 AM, Yu-cheng Yu wrote:
>> Control-flow Enforcement Technology (CET) adds five MSRs.  Introduce
>> them and their XSAVES supervisor states:
>>
>>      MSR_IA32_U_CET (user-mode CET settings),
>>      MSR_IA32_PL3_SSP (user-mode Shadow Stack pointer),
>>      MSR_IA32_PL0_SSP (kernel-mode Shadow Stack pointer),
>>      MSR_IA32_PL1_SSP (Privilege Level 1 Shadow Stack pointer),
>>      MSR_IA32_PL2_SSP (Privilege Level 2 Shadow Stack pointer).
> 
> This patch goes into a bunch of XSAVE work that this changelog only
> briefly touches on.  I think it needs to be beefed up a bit.
> 
[...]
> 
> Do we have any other spots in the kernel where we care about:
> 
> 	boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_SHSTK) ||
> 	boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_IBT)
> 
> ?  If so, we could also address this by declaring a software-defined
> X86_FEATURE_CET and then setting it if SHSTK||IBT is supported, then we
> just put that one feature in xsave_cpuid_features[].
> 

These features have different CPUIDs but are complementary parts.  I 
don't know if someday there will be shadow-stack-only CPUs, but an 
IBT-only CPU is weird.  What if the kernel checks that the CPU has both 
features and presents only one feature flag (X86_FEATURE_CET), no 
X86_FEATURE_SHSTK or X86_FEATURE_IBT?

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