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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 12:55:02 -0500
From: Joel Fernandes <joel@...lfernandes.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH -tip 18/32] kernel/entry: Add support for core-wide
protection of kernel-mode
On Wed, Nov 25, 2020 at 10:37:00AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 06:19:48PM -0500, Joel Fernandes (Google) wrote:
> > Core-scheduling prevents hyperthreads in usermode from attacking each
> > other, but it does not do anything about one of the hyperthreads
> > entering the kernel for any reason. This leaves the door open for MDS
> > and L1TF attacks with concurrent execution sequences between
> > hyperthreads.
> >
> > This patch therefore adds support for protecting all syscall and IRQ
> > kernel mode entries. Care is taken to track the outermost usermode exit
> > and entry using per-cpu counters. In cases where one of the hyperthreads
> > enter the kernel, no additional IPIs are sent. Further, IPIs are avoided
> > when not needed - example: idle and non-cookie HTs do not need to be
> > forced into kernel mode.
> >
> > More information about attacks:
> > For MDS, it is possible for syscalls, IRQ and softirq handlers to leak
> > data to either host or guest attackers. For L1TF, it is possible to leak
> > to guest attackers. There is no possible mitigation involving flushing
> > of buffers to avoid this since the execution of attacker and victims
> > happen concurrently on 2 or more HTs.
>
> > .../admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 11 +
> > include/linux/entry-common.h | 12 +-
> > include/linux/sched.h | 12 +
> > kernel/entry/common.c | 28 +-
> > kernel/sched/core.c | 241 ++++++++++++++++++
> > kernel/sched/sched.h | 3 +
> > 6 files changed, 304 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > index bd1a5b87a5e2..b185c6ed4aba 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
> > @@ -4678,6 +4678,17 @@
> >
> > sbni= [NET] Granch SBNI12 leased line adapter
> >
> > + sched_core_protect_kernel=
> > + [SCHED_CORE] Pause SMT siblings of a core running in
> > + user mode, if at least one of the siblings of the core
> > + is running in kernel mode. This is to guarantee that
> > + kernel data is not leaked to tasks which are not trusted
> > + by the kernel. A value of 0 disables protection, 1
> > + enables protection. The default is 1. Note that protection
> > + depends on the arch defining the _TIF_UNSAFE_RET flag.
> > + Further, for protecting VMEXIT, arch needs to call
> > + KVM entry/exit hooks.
> > +
> > sched_debug [KNL] Enables verbose scheduler debug messages.
> >
> > schedstats= [KNL,X86] Enable or disable scheduled statistics.
>
> So I don't like the parameter name, it's too long. Also I don't like it
> because its a boolean.
Maybe ht_protect= then?
> You're adding syscall,irq,kvm under a single knob where they're all due
> to different flavours of broken. Different hardware might want/need
> different combinations.
Ok, I can try to make it ht_protect=irq,syscall,kvm etc. And conditionally
enable the protection. Does that work for you?
>
> Hardware without MDS but with L1TF wouldn't need the syscall hook, but
> you're not givng a choice here. And this is generic code, you can't
> assume stuff like this.
Got it.
thanks,
- Joel
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