linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] rtc: adapt allowed RTC update error

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Date:   Thu, 3 Dec 2020 17:07:53 +0100
From:   Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...tlin.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...pe.ca>
Cc:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@...hat.com>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>,
        Prarit Bhargava <prarit@...hat.com>,
        Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@...ertech.it>,
        linux-rtc@...r.kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rtc: adapt allowed RTC update error

On 03/12/2020 11:52:49-0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:10:47AM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> 
> > IIRC, used in conjunction with rtc_hctosys which also adds
> > inconditionnaly 500ms this can ends up with the system time
> > being one second away from the wall clock time which NTP will take quite
> > some time to remove.
> 
> I can't remember the details, but this was not the intention. 
> 
> As long as systohc and hctosys exist then the design goal of rtclib
> should be to provide sub-second accuracy on the round trip of time
> through the RTC.
> 
> Otherwise what is the point?
> 

hctosys never had a sub second accuracy because there is no way to
accurately read the rtc time without being ready to wait up to a second.
I have patches doing exactly that but I'm pretty sure nobody wants to
pay the price and have a kernel that boots significantly slower.
Especially since that would basically affect everyone since systemd
requires that hctosys is enabled.


-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com